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Projects '57 Canadian Pontiac, kinda, sorta build thread

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by brad2v, Mar 7, 2015.

  1. brad2v
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    And finally, I WIN!! A buddy came by today, and we figured out the column shift issue. The box needed to be shimmed out, as the shift tube was actually binding on the column shaft, so that's addressed. I just have to do a little bit of grinding on the top of the rag joint, and it shifts, and I can move on to the linkage. Yay!!
     
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    And a glamour shot of my installed wiper motor, I can't resist Pontiac 031515 013_opt.jpg
     
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    Just a quickie tonight :rolleyes: I had surmised that the remainder of the column issues might be simple adjustment corrections. Likely, in an attempt to avoid column removal (again). It was a short 15 minutes or so, snugged four bolts to see if I was right. I weren't, but at least I know.
     
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    2015-03-22 18_opt.jpg So, I got a bit of time Sunday and Monday to yank the column, and do a lil brain salad surgery on the rag joint. Using the paint as an initial gauge of how much I removed, I then marked a length measurement on the nose, and ground it close, then filed it flat. 2015-03-22 19_opt.jpg
    Getting to an age where this is super handy near anything I'm working on.. 2015-03-2252_opt.jpg
     
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    Bolted everything back together, success indeed. The shifter operates, so the column is in for the last time I hope. So, I've had to use a '57 Chevy headlight switch to go with the wiring harness, as the Pontiac one won't work. The Chevy switch fits in the dash, but the knob won't go in far enough to lock. Currently pondering shortening the shaft, or getting a Chevy knob and changing out the plastic part of it (the actual knob), as the Poncho one is silver, and Chevy ones are black. 2015-03-2232opt.jpg
     
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    Well, a couple updates. Slow going, between a 2 week holiday in May, a bathroom reno, doing some painting and wall repair in the house, and a kid graduating high school, Pontiac time has been fairly limited. But, a few things done. The driver's side floor vent door was rotted, so I gave it to a buddy with access to a water jet, and he had a new one cut for me. I had to set indents into the new piece to allow a gap for the seal ( a piece of rubber sandwiched between the metal door halves). I used a button setting tool as a form, a chunk of tube, and hammered 'em in. I riveted it back together, robbed the pins from the old door, lubed and reinstalled the cable, and put it back in, works great. 2015-03-28 20_opt.jpg 2015-03-28 21_opt.jpg
     
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    The top pin in the original door was swaged in place at the factory. I ground off the swage, chucked it in the drill press, and carefully cut a groove in the pin with a hacksaw blade, so I could put an E clip on it, so the pin could still spin in it's pivot. 2015-03-29 16_opt.jpg
     
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    2015-04-12 12_opt.jpg 2015-04-12 155_opt.jpg The completed door. I'll get the other few things done up here in the next few days.
     
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    That's pretty cool, Brad. I haven't seen your thread until now. I had an Impala in high school that had vent door issues that I did some hack work to make functional. Your idea is much better!!!
     
  11. brad2v
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    Thanks Tim, not entirely sure what I would have done without the waterjet, but it likely wouldn't have been as nice.
     
  12. Century
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    Here's a '57 Pontiac I came accross at a junkyard in Toronto this past weekend. It's seen better days.

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    Yikes!! I wonder if the door lock rods are in the back doors...
     
  14. henry's57bbwagon
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    Brad, nice car and another one saved. My buddy's son just got their 57 Pontiac on the road and is looking for the signal cancel cam. Do you have any parts from the column? Thanks and good day.
     
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    I do indeed, shoot me a pm (or convo, whatever) with an address and I'll send it to you.
     
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    Thanks Brad, I left Rick a message and will get back to you when I have an answer. Henry, good day
     
  17. brad2v
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    Ok, so finally an update, so much for a "few days". I've got a lot done over the last 4 months, but it's not gonna be driving this year as hoped. Next year for sure.
    I changed the wiper cable I mentioned earlier, with the thought that if it ever failed, it's guaranteed to be during a rainstorm. It is available as a reproduction, but only with the wiper transmission, at $150 or so US, so about $3000 Canadian (kidding, but certainly over $200). So, I bought a cable ferrule swage tool for $95, and had at it. That was an exercise in holding one's tongue right, but I got it put together. 2015-04-12 15_opt.jpg 2015-04-28 21_opt.jpg
     
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    Pontiac 030715 004_opt.jpg The help...
     
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    I had thought earlier I would adapt a Chevy heater fan switch to the Pontiac housing. That wasn't going to work, so instead, I made a jumper harness to adapt the Pontiac switch to the Chevy dash harness, using the Pontiac insulator. I also had 2 heater controls, so I disassembled both and used the best parts to put together 1 nice one. Pontiac 0915 005_opt.jpg Pontiac 0915 006_opt.jpg Pontiac 0915 004_opt.jpg
     
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    I disassembled the gauges and cleaned 'em up, got the the rest of the dash put together, the glovebox light and switch wired, and the clock wiring modified for the Pontiac clock. Pontiac 0915 079_opt.jpg Pontiac 0915 007_opt.jpg Pontiac 0915 127_opt.jpg
     
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    The last items on the saga of the dash are the accessory gauges, and fixing the paint on the passenger side. It had a big goober where the paint had crazed, and about an 1/8" of paint on the speaker grille. I stripped the paint on the grille, and every member of the house spent time poking the little holes with my scribe getting all the gunk out. I had placed a wanted ad on the Canadian Poncho site for the missing Pontiac dash script. A great guy that lives here in Calgary responded, he had a spare that he GAVE me, so I met him for a beer and had a nice chat. I fixed the paint goober, and installed the emblem. The dash is off the list. Pontiac 0915 067_opt.jpg Pontiac 0915 072_opt.jpg Pontiac 0915 124_opt.jpg Pontiac 0915 126_opt.jpg
     
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    Into the engine compartment, yay!! Because of the electronic trans, I needed an adapter to run the speedo cable. So that's in, and pretty hidden. The plumbing for the SW oil pressure gauge as well as the stock gauge is in. Pontiac 0915 065_opt.jpg Pontiac 0915 086_opt.jpg Pontiac 0915 085_opt.jpg Pontiac 0915 121_opt.jpg The fuel line from the pump to the carb is done (twice actually, I wasn't happy with my first plan). The brake lines are done in the front, I just have to make up the chassis brake and fuel lines. And I made a throttle rod for the stock pedal to mate to the not stock engine and carb.
     
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    My fuel line, first attempt, Pontiac 0915 113_opt.jpg Pontiac 0915 129_opt.jpg And the final one
     
  24. Nice work on the details man!
     
  25. brad2v
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    Thanks, I appreciate that. I love this shit, probably my favorite part of a build.
     
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    A couple more things, and a little car building philosophy. I used to approach this with the thought that unless I could set aside at least 2 hours to work, it wasn't worthwhile. I've learned that even 10 minutes of something, anything, moves the project along faster. Plus, it keeps the juices flowing. Every time I have a moment, instead of plopping my arse down on the couch, I paint a bracket, or make a pattern, or run a couple bolts in.
    I have the brake booster and master cylinder painted (I know, I know, it's ugly, but my wife's daily is a late model, 400 hp, 6000 lb truck that she drives pretty aggressively, so I want to make sure this thing, at 3800 or so pounds and the same power level, stops well). I also bent up the hard line for the vacuum wipers, hooked up the trans linkage, and started on the power steering installation. Pontiac101715 002_opt.jpg Pontiac101715 004_opt.jpg Pontiac101715 007_opt.jpg
     
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    The power steering pump is in, as well as the alternator. I used a kit from Danchuk (I know, I know, lazy). Pretty slick, requiring only a bit of shimming on the bottom bracket to get the belt lined up. Please ignore the ugly water pump pulley, I had to use something for mockup. Pontiac110515 015_opt.jpg
     
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    The alternator bracket uses stacked washers to accommodate for different intakes. I thought these were kinda cheesy, so I made up a couple spacers instead. I rummaged through my junk, and came up with this little aluminum piece that I cut in half, and filed to thickness and diameter using my drillpress. Pontiac110515 003_opt.jpg Pontiac110515 001_opt.jpg Pontiac110515 005_opt.jpg Pontiac110515 006_opt.jpg
     
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    Looks a little less cheesy than the washers. Pontiac110515 013_opt.jpg Pontiac110515 008_opt.jpg Pontiac110515 017_opt.jpg Pontiac110515 018_opt.jpg
     
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    Pontiac110515 022_opt.jpg Pontiac110515 024_opt.jpg Pontiac110515 025_opt.jpg I couldn't find a coil bracket I liked, and it won't fit in the stock location on the intake due to my throttle linkage. So I used an extra fuel filler tube bracket, and made a mounting tab for it. It looks crooked in the pic, and it is, intentionally. This way, I can get the coil out of the bracket, without removing the bracket from the firewall.
     

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