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Technical 54 Belair won’t start

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Imperials54, Feb 15, 2018.

  1. Imperials54
    Joined: Jan 30, 2018
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    54 Belair won’t start will crank and start for about three seconds and shut off. I re wired some of the ignition wires today it helped but it still doesn’t start it sounds like it wants to but doesn’t. It has current at the spark plugs I’m thinking it could be the points or carb.

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  2. 56cadillackid
    Joined: Dec 23, 2016
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    from new york

    My cadillac did something like this a few weeks ago, tuns out I forgot I had taken half the spark plug wires out

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  3. Imperials54
    Joined: Jan 30, 2018
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    I’ve checked those about 20x lol
  4. Shutt
    Joined: Apr 25, 2015
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    Check for a grounded ballast resistor or bad one off coil.

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  5. R Pope
    Joined: Jan 23, 2006
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    R Pope

    Is it still stock 6V system?
    Joined: Dec 14, 2009
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    6vilt or 12 volt?
    When you rewired the ignition was Thisbe before or after the no start?

    Is there a good fat spark?

    Do you have fuel coming up to the carb?

    When did Thisbe start ?
    Running and driving , then the car died?

    Simply a no start after sitting a bit?

    You were doing something , then it became a no start?

    It’s an easy engine to fix but we need some info or else it goes like this

    Check battery
    Check ignition switch
    Check coil
    Check condenser
    Check point
    Check dist
    Check ignition wires
    Check spark plugs
    Check fuel pump
    Check fuel filters
    Check carb
    ................. check please !!!!!!!

    Sorry for sounding like an ass but it’s hard to fix a car over the ‘net without as much info as possible
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  7. Imperials54
    Joined: Jan 30, 2018
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    Yes 235
  8. Imperials54
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    It was fine about a month ago two weeks ago I went to go start it and it wouldn’t start my buddy came over and checked the ignition and fixed two wires sprayed some carb start in the carb and it started after that I just parked it in the garage yesterday morning I tried to start it and it did the same thing battery is at 12.75 volts the the carb is getting gas into it I’m running a Rochester single barrel I’m on 12 volts
  9. Imperials54
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  10. Imperials54
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    I replaced the igniton coil ignition started but then died. I also changed the points and condenser it’s started and died again. I’m getting the carb rebuild and gonna change the spark plugs if that doesn’t work then I don’t know what else to do.
  11. Disconnect the wire on the plus side of the coil and temporally run a wire from the plus side of the battery to the plus side of the coil.Try starting it and see what happens..Sounds like a bad ignition switch to me loosing power to the coil in the run position.
  12. zeph4057k
    Joined: Nov 28, 2011
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    it's the ballast resistor........
  13. 6 V doesn't use a ballast
  14. David Gersic
    Joined: Feb 15, 2015
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    David Gersic
    from DeKalb, IL

    Fuel pump or plugged filter? Sounds like it runs from what’s in the bowl, then starved and dies.

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  15. Begin by replacing the condenser, an easy replacement and condensers are known to be defective ..... especially the overseas ones. If a no start after the condenser, tell us about your reading at the coil, what are they ? Do you have fuel at the carb ?
  16. car is 12 volt conversion.
  17. On the Internet, from far away,
    that's my first guess too. Easy enough to hot wire the coil and test it out.
  18. See post #7
  19. Engine man
    Joined: Jan 30, 2011
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    Engine man
    from Wisconsin

    In post 8 the battery voltage is reported as being 12.75 volts.
  20. Imperials54
    Joined: Jan 30, 2018
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    This was after I replaced the ignition coil condenser and the points.
  21. Imperials54
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  22. Imperials54
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  23. Sure some conflicting information going on here.o_O Evidently he has an internally regulated coil, so he still has no, or shouldn't have a ballast. My experience with ballasts has always been that the engine will start, but quit the instant the key returns to the run position.
    Reminds me of a funny story. At the L.A Roadsters show, a number of years ago, I watched while a guy was trying to start his "T" bucket. It would start but crap out when he released the key. I told him that his ballast was probably bad. He looked me right in the eye and told me to mind my own effin business. I walked the show, had a brew and a funnel cake and wandered past the guy again. By this time, the blower, the intake and the distributor were laying on the ground. It wasn't more than 10 seconds later, his buddy says, "Hey, looky here!!" He was holding up an obviously toasted ballast resistor. I still carry a smug smile over that little win:p
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  24. Imperials54
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    I don’t have a ballast

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