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53 chev rear end swap out

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by GBchev, Jul 12, 2010.

  1. GBchev
    Joined: Aug 5, 2009
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    1. 49-54 Chevy Cars

    hey guys so i have done some measuring and reading on here so backing plate to backing plate the stock 53 chevy rear end is between 53 to 54 inches im using the stock springs just need something better to handle the V8 i see some guys say 60" is best but wouldnt that rub on the Qtr? i went online to find a rear to buy and so far i have a guy with a 68 chevelle rear that he said its 54 to 58 he is going to measure and get back to me and another guy i called had a 4x4 s10 rear he says its about 53" 52 and 3/4 will that be to short? how much space do i have to play with like whats too short and whats to wide and whats the happy medium ? im running 215/70R15 standerd offset if that helps
     
  2. Use the "search" feature, just last week or so was all the info on rear end width's you could imagine. Everything in that thread you would want to know. If I was better with the computer, I would send it to you, heck I dont even have a avatar. Good luck.
     
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  3. 49ratfink
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    first of all you need to measure from where the wheel mounts, not the backing plate since the brakes could be different widths between cars.
     
  4. metalix_421
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    i am building my 50 fleetline now and went with a camaro rear. also the 80s buick if i was told correctly i have posted up pics in my build but they arnt fully up to date. also the picture to the left is with the new rearend under it it is about an inch or so wider but still clears nicely
     

  5. Deuce Roadster
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    The reason the 60 inch measurement is used is that you always measure from the wheel mounting flange to the wheel mounting flange. :D

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    Different axle shafts have different offsets and brake drums vary in width ...

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    I always like to use a 57/58/59 Ford 9 inch Ford rear end ... they are actually 58 inches wide ( measured the way shown above :) ) and are about two inches more narrow than the original rear end. That is only one inch per side. The 9 inch Ford is famous for it's strenght and ease of working on. Parts are easily found. Gear ratios easily changed and they have a way range of ratios from 2.50 or so to over 6.20. The only drawback under a Chevrolet is the wheel pattern ( 5 on 4.5 ) but there are many rims available with both the Chevrolet ( 5 on 4.75 ) and Ford ( 5 on 4.75 ) pattern.

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  6. I have a 53 Chevy and i have the S 10 4x4 Rearend and it was a real nice fit plus parts are cheep !
     
  7. GBchev
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    hey louver dude do you have to use a different offset with that rear and how low you sittin
     
  8. chevrolayd
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    i used a 1957 chevy axel its a perfect fit
     
  9. PeteFromTexas
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    I have an axle out of a 56 nomad. Perfect fit. it almost bolted right on.
     
  10. junkyardkat
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    Go to 50chevy.com lots of tech. there. I am using a rear out of a 71 camaro. Good luck on your build.
     
  11. GBchev
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  12. gsport
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    i just put a 95' S-10 4x4 rearend in my 50'... a perfect fit. only had to cut the old spring perches off and weld on new ones ($13.00 @ summit)
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  13. check out www.chevytalk.com lots of great info and pic's there like gsport posted.
     
  14. Ace50coupe
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    I am running an S-10 7.65 10 bolt in a 50 chevy with no problems also 68-72 camaro and nova 10 bolts are the perfect width for 49-54 chevys. Thats why most people run 10 bolts.
     
  15. LCC Automotive
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    I have a 1973 camaro 10 bolt in my 53, fits great.
     
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  16. gsport
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    here's some good information that someone else passed on to me...
    The first gen camaro is slightly narrower than the second gen (70 - 82). First gen is 60 on the rear and approx. 60 1/2 on the front, which is almost exactly the same as your 50. This measurement is mounting surface to mounting surface (outside hub). The second gen is 61 1/2 on the front and 60 1/2 on the rear, mounting surface to mounting surface. Scroll down near the bottom of the info below and you'll find some clip measurements.

    Original Vehicles
    Rear Suspension Width (Flange to Flange)

    Year
    Classic Vehicles
    Width

    26-39
    Plymouth-Dodge car/pick up
    56-58"

    40-52
    Plymouth-Dodge car
    60-62"

    26-39
    Chrysler/DeSoto Car
    60"

    Most Early
    Mopar's
    56-62"

    25-39
    Chevy Car
    56-58"

    26-46
    Chevy Truck
    56-58"

    40-48
    Chevy Car
    58-60"

    49-54
    Chevy Car
    58-60"

    47-54 & 55 1st Series
    Chevy Truck
    60-62"

    Most Early
    Buick,Olds, Pontiac
    58-61"

    28-31
    Ford Car/Pickup
    57 1/2"

    32 & 33-34
    Ford Car/Pickup
    56 1/2"

    35-48
    Ford Car
    57-60"

    35-41
    Ford Pickup
    56-60"

    49-58
    Ford Car
    57-58"

    49-56
    Mercury
    57-58"

    49-51
    Mercury
    61"

    64
    Falcon
    58"

    67
    Cougar
    60"

    55-59
    Chevy Pickup
    62"





    Donor Vehicles Front and Rear
    Suspension Width (Flange to Flange)

    Year
    Classic Vehicles
    Width Front
    Width Rear

    74-79
    Ford Mustang II/Pinto & Mercury Capri/Bobcat
    55 ½"
    55 ½"

    71-77
    Ford Maverick with 8" axle
    56 ½"


    75-80
    Ford Granada with 8" axle
    57 ½"


    64-66
    Mustang
    57"


    67-71
    Mustang
    59"


    72-73
    Mustang
    60"


    67-69 , & 60"
    Camaro
    60"


    64-67
    Chevelle
    60"


    55-64
    Chevy car
    60"


    65-67
    Nova
    58"


    68-72
    Nova
    60"
    60"

    78 & up
    Monte Carlo, Regal, etc. with 10 bolt axle
    58"
    58"

    68-72
    Chevelle with 10 bolt axle
    61 ½"


    89
    Trans AM (Disc brake)
    62"


    76-80
    Camaro/Firebird
    61 ½"
    60 ½"

    68-83
    Corvette
    58 ½"
    59 ½"

    84-95
    Corvette
    59 ½"
    60 ½"

    Early 70's
    "A" body (Dart/Duster) with V8&3/4 axle
    58"



    "E" Body (Cuda) with V8&3/4 axle
    58"



    Dodge Dart
    59"
    55 ½"


    Plymouth Volare & Dodge Aspen
    61"
    60 ½"

    71
    Blazer (6 lug)
    63 ¾"


    75-78
    Granada 9"
    (43" perch to perch)
    52 ¼"

    75-78
    Maverick 9"
    (43" perch to perch)
    56 ¼"

    81-87
    Olds Cutlass
    58 ½"




    FRONT SUSPENSION INFORMATION



    Track Width of Popular Donor Car Clips

    Manufacture
    Model
    Years
    Track Front/Rear
    Curb Weight

    Chevrolet
    Nova
    68-74
    59.8-59.6
    3,770

    Buick
    Apollo
    68-74
    59.1-58.8
    3760

    Pontiac
    GTO
    68-74
    59.9-59.6
    3880

    Chevrolet
    Corvette
    68-83
    58.7-59.5
    3655



    84-95
    59.6-60.4
    3890

    Chevrolet
    Camaro (Z28)
    76-80
    61.3-60.5
    3820

    Pontiac
    Firebird (TA)
    76-80
    61.3-60.5
    3900

    Ford
    Mustang II
    74-79
    55.6-55.8
    3305


    Pinto
    74-79
    55.6-55.8
    3305

    Mercury
    Capri
    74-79
    55.6-55.8
    3305


    Bobcat
    74-79
    55.6-55.8
    3305

    Chevrolet
    Monte Carlo
    78-86
    58.5-58.8
    3235

    Buick
    Century
    78-86
    59.0-58.8
    3700

    Pontiac
    Grand Prix
    78-86
    58.9-59.0
    3735

    Plymouth
    Volare
    75-79
    61.0-60.5
    3395

    Dodge
    Aspen
    75-79
    61.0-60.5
    3395

    Dodge
    Dart
    76
    59.2-55.6
    3600
     
  17. GBchev
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    What year of 4x4 S10 rears
     
  18. Von Rigg Fink
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    all of them
     
  19. NVScouter
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    My 53 Bel Air has a 1968 Camaro 10 bolt rear in it.
     
  20. Hot Rodz R Us
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    78 Camaro is what I used
     
  21. 73super
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    Ditto. I used one on my '49 and it was an easy install. :cool:
     
  22. This is like beating a dead horse, so for about the 100th time, to get a rearend in the car that's open drive with the same wheel bolt pattern:

    55-57 Chevy bolts in with locating pin hole redrilled, perches will hang off to inside a bit.

    70-81 Camaro, same deal, bolt in with relocated pin hole in perch. 75-79 Nova is supposed to be the same rearend, have heard the spacing is a tad different. This rear is about an inch and a half wider and may cause interference with fender skirts.

    S10 4x4 all years fits well with new perches. Is about the same width, or slightly narrower, allowing for a wider tire or running skirts.

    1st gen Camaro, 68-74 Nova will fit; and mid-80s GM RWD will fit but the latter needs coil spring and trailing arm mounts cut off and replaced with leaf perches.
     
  23. Nookie
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    Not trying to steal the thread but what would be a good gear ratio rearend for use with the .72 od.T-5 and a 216 or 235? Looking for more highway speed less RPMs. Thanks
     
  24. No to the offset, i'm running stock rims and fender skirts and I think some one already said they are about a 1" narrower then stock, The 53 is sitting as low as 3 leafs and 4" lowering blocks will let it sit with the bags droped and no c notch.
     

  25. 3:73 would be great 3:54 would be my second choice.
     
  26. Nookie
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    Thanks Louverdude!
     
  27. I went with s-10 4x4 in my 54. had 8 inch rally wheels with 305/70 tires. close to the lip with that much tire. parallel (sic) leafs and 4 in block. my .02
     
  28. IL GIMMI
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    3.70 57 Chevy rearend in my 54, love it.
     
  29. thistle
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    gsport, what springs do you have there?
     
  30. lawman
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    As they said S10 or Tri fives. Tom (Tired Old Man)
     

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