The Jalopy Journal
Discussion in 'Traditional Customs' started by KustomKreeps, Apr 6, 2017.
Will you put a link to your new thread on here? Thanks for shareing Frank
There was a kid around here back in the 1960's with a similar Hudson. He named it the Iron Lung
Spring is here, sun is shining and the welder is sending beautiful sparks in the air.
Progress is picking up.
Engine is out as is obvious from the above pic.
The jig that was made up way back when the Hudson was still whole to mark out the holes to mount any panel work is in place and everything is looking good. A few tweaks will be needed but other than that pretty happy with it.
A better look at the trans mount and brace that strengthens up the frame so the whole thing dosnt collapse inwards as the sides flay outwards like some molten pudding. (im on a bit of a sweet vibe at the moment- would totally demolish a pack of licorice). Any who this shows the top hat cross sections way better than the last posts pictures. They will be out soon so the frame can be strengthen up.
Pic above is for Hnstray on HAMB (I post this build on multiple sites). Showing the diagonal "braces" and how they are mounted on conveyor belt rubber at the bottoms so don't really add anything in the way of bracing. From the jig you can see how they are used mainly to mount the inner guards. That bracket up top held the horns.
A better look at the jig that marks the mounting holes.
Once everything is marked out the front clip will be taken off. Braced up where needed at the back.
Holes cut - both for mounting the panels and rad but also larger ones to help add a crumple zone. Part of the NZ cert rules say we must have a crumple zone to help absorb an impact. So those nice big ol holes we used when doing the rear end will be brought forward up front.
The half pipe notching for the steering arms will also add to the whole crumple zone.
Then weld it all together, add a lick of paint, put it all together along with the engine panels, rad etc to make sure it all fits.
Thanks for the photos and more detailed explanation. My interest is peaked because I recently acquired a very solid ‘49 Hudson Super Six Coupe.
Fitted jig to locate mounting positions for front panels.
Radiator and grill support brackets.
Bumper mounts tacked into position.
Notched out for radiator surround.
Reduced front of chassis to clear front panels.
Surround in position.
Front panel fitted.
Sub-frame removed for final welding & notching for steering arms. This shot can give you an idea of how we attached the front sub into what was a full chassis/uni-body car.
All welded and bolted back in. Note xtra cross member installed, this ties the Hudson front together as there is no chassis running through to the back.
Notched to allow full travel of the steering arms.
Rods by Reid front end all tig welded. Looks good and is nice and strong.
Extra bracing added to cross member. You can also see some of the gusseting that strengthens up frame. Thick plate with circles cut, welded in and out.
Front brace and rad support completed along with the attachment points for the panels. Trans brace is lurking below on the ground.
Done. Ready for the certifier to take a quick look this weekend. For such a project its good to have him follow along. Better to get any issues he might have delt to now than latter when its all painted up and assembled.
Once thats done we will throw the panels on to make sure it all fits then rip em off and get the heavy old beast up on the rotisserie again.
Some one on one of the forums I post on asked to see the gusseting a bit better.
So images of it below.
Basically the rails are cut at 45degress there.
Plated on the sides along with top and bottom.
Circles cut to show the 45 joins(or lack of it as you see)
Cert chap ran his eye over everything. He is more than happy with the front and rear end. Only comment was to add a small bit of triangle bracing to the above image just under the floor pan there. Looking at the original chassis they had some thin metal sheet riveted on in this spot. Its no biggie and will do once the cars up in the air.
I was a bit worried about the tie rod ends at the back. Being welded not a one piece. But he was happy with them. He explained the one piece are needed for certain rolls but the welded ones I have for the purpose they are being used for are fine. yey.
So ya big tick by the cert guy for the work so far.
Summers here and finally we are starting to get that drive to work on the car again. Winter months tend to make me like some reclusive old bear who rather stay nice and warm in his den and spring when it wasnt raining had us touring about in the old Buick.
To help get the enthusiasm back up and get a better picture of where we currently look it was decided to throw the panels back on. Not only would this confirm the jig and new front sub fitted up how it was supposed to fit but it is a simple easy start to getting back into everything.
Front On. Alot of this will be changed up abit down the track.
Nailhead lurking in the background. we didn't put it in as it would just need to be pulled for the rotisserie.
Picked up a visor cheap on HAMB. Adjustable width and seems only slight modifications are needed to make it fit. Will certainly make it look lower.
Pulled it out to get a better look.
Placed the side pipes just to see how they look.
Pretty happy with its stance. This is air out.
And finally a before and after.
As you can see its dropped down a considerable amount. rear tire is no longer visible. Guessing we are looking at a 5 inch drop. so at air up fully inflated the car will be a bit higher than original.
And as we hopped this has me pretty darn keen to get stuck back in to it. Blow it to pieces again in a few days time then get it up on a rotisserie again.
This is a rad build, will be following along. Big fan of not chopping. That split windshield is spot on on this car.
Summer Dayz have been good.
With the sun shining the 52 Buick has been rolling about the blacktop as much as possible.
Haven't really touched the Hudson much but have tinkered on the Buick.
Decided to upgrade to an electric fuel pump. The old mechanical fuel pump still is in place with its pipes plugged up. This is not just as a backup encase the electric dies on me but because the old vacuum powered window wipers are driven off it.
With the left over plug wires from the Hudson I made up some new sparkplug leads. We had a few issues at highway speeds on a road trip when the car would missfire. Also chucked in new spark plugs. Gave the car a good tune up and adjusted the rockers. Cars going way better.
Have a pertronix unit on the way I will chuck in the distributor as well when it arrives.
The Hudson is back up on the rotisserie. Below are a few pics that show the new frame work.
Obviously the Trans support isn't shown but you can see where it attaches in the above pic.
Next is to strip down and wire brush the underside then rust kill, etch prime and lizard skin it.
Great work your fab work looks good. I forgot that our seasons are opposite of yours. Frank
Great pics of your very fine workmanship.....Thank You for continuing to post progress reports.
hey thanks guys.
Did like five hours of scraping old sealer off or wire wheeling today. Got the missus to help out what kinda kept me on track what was good. Still think we have another few days to go to get it decent.
Poor bird was stuck with the rear tire wells. Pain in the butt angles to deal with but she made some solid progress thats turning out good.
Check out the sexy dirt tan lines on my scrawny arms. Similar to a farmers tan... that make it what ? a Bogan/red neck tan?
these twisted wire wheels sure do a good job though. So good it uncover a few spots of rust >.> B@$tard!
themoose has worked his magic with Photoshop to the Hudson.
50 Buick grille, nosed, shaved, louvers, side pipes, tinted glass, 57 wheel covers and white walls then on top of that a scalloped paint job.
Have not updated this for ages. So here is a bit of a ramble / catch up as to what has been happening. So this will be a bit of a long post with a spam load of pics.
Wirewheeling like a possessed Tasmanian devil. Scrapped of the junk and old paint getting everything back to bare metal. Talking underside of the car, inner guards/panels, front guards, rad support etc. Still got more to do like the front end and other bits. I guess we didnt really need to go all the way back to shiny metal but I like to know whats what and how it all is looking under all the ancient gunk.
Then went over and rust killed/converted it all with Brunox.
great stuff that turns the rust a purple black.
Found a local chap Noel the slinky man who has a big ass sand blaster they use for trucks etc. For a 24 pack of cool beers he was happy enough to do a bit of blasting for us. no flat panel stuff just the hard to wire wheel bits or sturdy bits like the rad support. Did a great job.
Whitewalls arrived. BFG Silvertown 235/70/ r15.
Got some custom steelies made up from Elite Wheels in Christchurch. Fraser there did a bang on job with some great looking welds. 15inch rims. 6" wide front, 7" at the back. centers are 4" from the back.
You wont see the backs due to the car being so low and has skirts. The front will have wheel covers that will hide the full steel rim. Have painted them up using Red Caliper paint. I figure the stuff is made to be resistant to road grime, brake dust, heat and what ever other stress calipers get so should be fine for wheels. The red was a bit more orange than I would of liked but yeah no matter wont see them. Got chrome valve stems on the way.
Will edit the post later with a pic of the rims painted. But im sure you can all figure out what a red painted steel rim looks like.
Assembled the rear end.
It had been mocked up for testing so pulled the axles etc and got it all together.
The whole rear came from Moser engineering. Top crew if you ask me. Support was great. Welds and quality of material is top shelf.
Bare 9" Ford Housing (54.7” AF to AF)
Moser Axles w/Bearing Pkg 5X4 ½ With Screw in studs
Moser Performance Nodular Case
Trac Loc Posi 31 spline
Nodular Pro/Street Support
1350 Pinion Yoke-steel
P/S Gear - 3.50
Wilwood Pro/Street 12.19" 4 pot disks with internal Park brake.
Fill & Drain Plug. Screw in breather.
Lokar E-Brake Cable kit & Braided Caliper Hoses
Further info on Moser custom Centers/pumpkins.
Further info on Moser custom 9" housing and axles package.
Further info on Wilwood brake package.
Throwing it altogether was easy enough even though we couldn't find the instructions. Have since downloaded them from Moser just so I have the torque settings and will go back and tighten everything up next time im out there.
Here's the mark to hit, a great 50's built Hudson
Not everyone would agree that the above Hudson is a 'Benchmark'. Nice yes, and built to satisfy a particular taste.
It is a 'custom' after all. The OP's Hudson is also a 'custom' too, though with an emphasis on re-engineering the
chassis more so than the outward body structure. Each admirable in their own way and any preference in the eye of the beholder.
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