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Technical 40 ford front brake shoe spring

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Joe Warren, Jan 26, 2020.

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  1. Joe Warren
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    Anyone have a tip on how to get that f'ing spring anchored between the shoes without damage to car or a hernia to one's self?
     
  2. Joe Warren
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    Front brake shoes, incidentally.
     
  3. Put it on the shoes first... Then hang the shoes, Bottom last
     
  4. Pete Eastwood
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    On '39 to '48 ford brakes , I use vice grips on one end of the spring .
     
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  5. manyolcars
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    I hook the spring on both shoes, then put the shoes on the backing plate
     
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  6. Like so...

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  7. Joe Warren
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    Thank you. Quick followup: Shoe with more material (larger) to the rear, yes? Some folks reverse it on advice sites (not the HAMB, of course: here we do everything right).
     
  8. Joe Warren
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    Yeah, that's what I eventually did with a small pry bar for fulcrum. I may try the spring and spread method on the other wheel: always seemed to work with newer than '40 shoes.
     
  9. No long shoe to the front and bigger bore of cylinder to front...
     
  10. Moriarity
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    Brake spring pliers. This spring is already on but you get the idea. Hook the spring on the hooked end and position the other end in the river hole on the shoe

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  11. Joe Warren
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    OK. Thanks and I gotta get one of those. If I give you my address will you send me yours for free?
     
  12. Moriarity
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    haha, I have had those for more than 40 years and still use em
     
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  14. Joe Warren
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    Officially on my Watch List thanks to you, Professor Moriarity. Best of luck in upsetting the balance of civilized society.
     
  15. Joe Warren
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    Well I Googled your Moriarity Mower and now I see what you're talking about. Arizona's a tough place for lawns. Rocks don't mow.
     
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  17. rusty valley
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    brake spring pliers come in different shapes and sizes. whenever i see one at a swap meet cheap, i buy it. now have a selection for the best fit. also, not shown in Moriarty's photo, is that the end of the handle is another tool for putting on the hold down springs
     
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  18. Joe Warren
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    Rusty Valley: So I got my show spring pliers yesterday - Snap-On vintage USA which makes me very happy - and I wondered what that little indentation was. Thanks. I always sort of pushed down on the retainer spring and fumbled around until I got it. So there's a tool for that: imagine that!
     
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  19. rusty valley
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    and...there might be a notch on the other handle for putting on the top anchor springs on the later floating type brake shoes. lets see your snapon, i dont have one of those
     
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  20. Moriarity
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    My brake pliers has a hook for installing the anchor springs and another feature for removing them. I have a snap on screwdriver handled tool for doing the hold down springs

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  21. Joe Warren
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    Thank you both!
     
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  22. I got those tools too. Not Snap-on, but they don't snap off either. Sure do make the job, easier, and safer.
     
  23. adam401
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    Brake pliers are definitely a great tool to own. When I use them on riveted linings I place the prying end on the head of one of the rivets. Works well to keep the pliers from sliding under a stiff new spring.
     

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