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Hot Rods '36, going against my ways

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by 36 Vick, Nov 12, 2014.

  1. 36 Vick
    Joined: Oct 21, 2014
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    36 Vick
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    from Kerman, Ca

    Thank you for the "Welcome". Sorry for the delay in response

    Here's an update. Building new front rails. Pinch them in a bit

    Should streamline the look of the front image.jpg image.jpg
     
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  2. 36 Vick
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    FYI. The green tape on the hood represents the extension of the hood vents. The front line on the cowl is the new hood line. The rear tape on the cowl represents the door extension, after I add the suicide hinges
     
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  3. Those will be some super nice lines!
     
  4. RoadsterRod1930
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    Didn't think I was gonna like it at first, but after looking at all the pics.... I think I can really get behind this, dig it
     
  5. uncle buck
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    Your plans laid out with the tape really help with the challenge you are facing with the side view. Keep up the great work.
     
  6. shooter54
    Joined: Apr 25, 2006
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    I love anything 1936 Ford, this is no exception. Different? Yes. But it's working. Can't wait to see the progress.
     
  7. telekenfun
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    I like what you have done so far. If you see my avatar, that's my 36/5 window. My chop is similar to yours with a slight wedge to it. I took a 3&3/8" section out of mine from stem to stern. It is in paint now and final assembly. I drove it for two seasons as you see it. Please allow me to express a few thoughts for your project that have come from my own build experience.
    My first comment is I'm curious as to the vertical section that brought the rear wheel opening so close to the rear of the door. You have set the channel perfectly at the front of the door. Next the bottom 'reveal' needs to follow the frame's sweep which it does pretty well to the rear. I would make a new piece for the bottom of the cowl that smoothly follows the frame rail forward. Next I would add extentions to the bottom of the hood sides or fixed panels attached to the frame rails like the original inner fender panel that would have that same lower 'reveal' shaped into them. This would provide a strong line to the bottom of the car. Next I think the rear wheel well and the 'reveal' needs to be cut loose and raised so the top/center of the 'reveal' sits about an inch &3/8 below the beltline 'reveal'. This will provide addition wheel clearance and make the wheel appear properly centered in its well. A suggestion for the tail end treatment might be to make the back of the wheelwell parallel with the tire all the way around. That would entail splitting bottom 'reveal' at the very rear center and adding an extra 6 -8 inches there. Fillers would be needed for the gaps created between the well's 'reveal' and the back panel, but that should be fairly easy if the cuts are well thought out. This mod would eliminate the pinched look the rear has now.
    The tape marks you've laid out show some very nice lines, however your plans set off alarms in me. Having cut thought that area and understanding what you may be getting into I recommend that you not attempt those mods unless you have the skills of a Marcel. Creating a new recess for the new hood line will be a tremendous amount of work. Likewise regarding reshaping the door frame et al.
    For a clue, I lengthened my louvers on my hood sides nearly identically to match the taped outline you have drawn on yours. Each hood side took a weeks worth of 'tig' welding. It took another week of 'tig' welding to shorten the grill and all those stamped steel bars. Getting too exotic could extend your build time out towards 3-4 years like mine took.
    It appears that you have the hood and grill well located to provide a nice straight alignment with this the beltline which I think is the absolute Must. No matter what changes you make please keep that alignment.
    I noticed some fresh metal on the sided of the grills lower sides. These pieces are where the lower 'reveal' can be terminated in, at the transition from the outside to the inside of the frame extention which really looks great.
    You have a great start going for an unusual 36 project. I hope my comments are helpful in your creating a great looking Hot Rod.
    Best regards and good luck with all your endeavors, KB.
     
  8. 36 Vick
    Joined: Oct 21, 2014
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    Tha
    . Thank you for the positive feed back....
    Mock up panels have been designed to go between the hood side and frame. I've assessed the door extension and have a trick in mind that won't affect the door jam. As for the rear, I will be re-radiusing the wheel well. Not sure I want to raise it. I would... So I can lower the car, look cool. I wouldn't... So I can keep a back seat for the kids. So, it's a toss up right now

    Should have front frame work done next week and will update with hood panel progress
     
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  9. Oh man, I gotta see the door jamb trick.
    I have one going ( link below) that would have the door treatment done if not for the door jambs
     
  10. 50Fraud
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    Bad idea, good job. Moving the front tires ahead of the grille was the key to making the whole idea work.
     
  11. 36 Vick
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    Is that better or worse then a Good idea, Bad job?
     
  12. 36 Vick
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    Post that link again
     
  13. Jim636
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    I am liking where this is going.......
     
  14. rusty rocket
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    How about if you kick the bottom of the grill out? With the windshield laid back as much as it I think the grill should match. Then you dont have to chop it and make it look squatty.
     
  15. 50Fraud
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    Definitely better.
     
  16. 36 Vick
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    Little update, completed the front half of the frame. image.jpg image.jpg image.jpg
     
  17. Johnny99
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    Nice, something a bit different. Radius the top rear of the door/B pillar where they meet. 33/34 style inner fender as mentioned would look great. Maybe mod a set from a 35/36 truck ? Probably a bit more affordable.My two pesos. Hi Bill and Dave.

    John
     
  18. 36 Vick
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    Im on it.... The green tape lines represent future changes
     
  19. Heyyyyyyyy!
    What's the details on the steering ?
     
  20. 55willys
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    I have had an idea for a long time on the front treatment to deal with the narrow bottom of that type of grill. It is to use the headlight area out of a 37 fender and blend it into the grill and hood side area. This will close up the area that looks gaping under the hood. I would also shorten the back of the car to expose the rear end and not have it look like the back of the car is drooping. I like the concept and would like to do something similar if I could find the time. Jim Ford
     
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  21. 36 Vick
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    Have yet to determine where the steering box is from. I got it with the car. Originally the pitman arm was below the frame rail. After I redesigned the frame rails, I needed to slot the frame rail for the pitman arm to work. Liked it better then lowering the box. image.jpg image.jpg
     
    Last edited: Oct 20, 2015
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  22. 36 Vick
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    A few couple updated pictures..

    Looking for opinions or views on the rear wheel well. Did these 2 mock ups last night. Playing with options now, because things will be modified image.jpg image.jpg image.jpg
     
  23. 36 Vick
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  24. falconsprint63
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    I like the way the pinch turned out. I was thinking about pinching all the way up and terminating with a suicide mount up front inside the grill area. You've given me more to chew on here.
     
  25. 36 Vick
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    ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1422546877.103297.jpg ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1422546912.404896.jpg


    He knows my name!
     
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  26. nice work, that will be a swoopy look.
     
  27. 36 Vick
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    Building the filler panel between my hood side and frame rail. Spent my first time on a bead roller and shrinker stretcher. Thanks to Daniel Shuken at Shuken racing in Fresno

    So, I'm hooked. Now looking at buying my own. Sounds like Shane over at Baileigh will get a sale this week. Keep you guys posted on that

    Here is a few progress/mock up shots of the filler panel and future exhaust....


    He knows my name!
     
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  28. 36 Vick
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    He knows my name!
     

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