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Technical 35 coupe sitting crooked

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by solo_909, May 27, 2017.

  1. solo_909
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    Hey guys,

    So I recently installed some reverse eye posies with a 2" drop, 4" dropped axle, and posies 2 3/8" longer shackles. I tried to install the springs by tightening the ubolts down at the same time but I'm sitting like a little over an inch lower on the driverside. Any wisdom how to straighten her out?

    I did noticed that the shackles don't seem to be resting at the same angle. Could this be part of the problem, and how do I correct that?

    Thanks,
    George


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  2. Gene Boul
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    Is the spring centered?
     
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  3. flamedabone
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    Are you SURE that the spring pack bolt in the center is in the center hole in the crossmember?

    -Abone.
     
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  4. solo_909
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    Yes the spring bolt is centered.
     
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  5. oj
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    Unsplit bones and centered spring? something bound up not letting the shackles work. Like the spring doesn't have same castor as the axle. Can you 'jounce' it and see if one side moves more free than the other? How easily did the pins go thru the shackle to join spring to the wishbone?
     
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  6. oj
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    If you look at the pic you can see the top of the spring. It seems to be canted twards us an dthe axle, at same height, you can't see the top because of caster canting it away from us. Then again, it might be just camera angle.
     
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  7. solo_909
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    Unsplit wishbones and the pins went through fairly easy. It was the bushings that gave me some problems.
     
  8. 3banjos
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    Swap ya spring over and see if other side drops
     
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  9. solo_909
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    Interesting, so when I went and took a look at the posies it seems like the passenger side leafs start to push towards the back of the car vs the driverside which is more straight up and down.

    Kind of hard to see in the photo but it's different.


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  10. Did you perhaps over-tighten the nuts on the backside of the shackles creating a bind not allowing any swing at all in the spring?
     
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  11. oj
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    Seems like you should have the same thread reveal on the nuts - I can't believe I just reached for my little pen light to see if there is anything stuck up in there! I'm going to go commit myself.
     
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  12. Gene Boul
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    If it is maybe relocate the pin. You wouldn't have to move much. Use the shackle angle as a "go by"
     
  13. solo_909
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    The ubolts shouldn't be tightened all the way down?
     
  14. ..............They need to be tight, but not so snug that the spring is unable to move at all. I doubt that they are that tight but it's possible. Is the car driveable at this time? It could settle into "level" when it is moved some.
     
  15. solo_909
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    Hmm well I wrenched them down pretty tight. Give me an example of the max torque that it should be at so I can check?
     
  16. brigrat
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    Have you driven it yet to let it settle in?
     
  17. solo_909
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    Not really just like around the block going about 10mph.
     
  18. brigrat
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    That should be enough!
    Have to ask, was it that far off before?
     
  19. Gene Boul
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    You might take the load off the spring and "Beat" the spring square. Square means to me the leafs need to be aligned with one another and perpendicular with the frame.
     
  20. Kerrynzl
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    check the bones where the shackles are hanging [ In the pics they are a bit off from each other ]

    Also with that shackle angle you should run a panhard bar
     
  21. ..........I don't know what the torque setting would be and I doubt that unless you used an impact when re-assembling them that they are "over tightened". It's possible but doubtful. Can you loosen the nuts a little and use a pry bar to try and shift the shackles a bit. There must be a bind of some sort somewhere unless like some have suggested the spring is actually twisted or otherwise screwed up. I would jack it up, spray some silicone spray on the shackles, loosen the nuts (don't remove them completely) and see if I could effect any movement with a pry bar.
     
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  22. seb fontana
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    I wouldn't have gone with the longer shackles as above you will need a panhard bar, odds are. With the long shackles spring is not under enough tension to center [and keep ] itself..
     
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  23. ..............That is a good point. The reversed eye spring and dropped axle should have gotten the car down to a nice lowered height without going to the longer shackles as well.
     
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  24. solo_909
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    The longer shackles weren't my choice it's just what posie sent me. Could that be the reason why my car is crooked?
     
  25. brigrat
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    Are your shocks bottomed out?
     
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  26. alchemy
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    Have you checked to see if the axle is square in the car? Something might be pushing it sideways, which is shown by the spring not square in the crossmember.
     
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  27. Kerrynzl
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    Seriously Mate, Check your bones [the front end forgings].
    If you look at the photos ,the distance from the top of these forgings to the bottom shock nut is different .
    The arch under these forgings to the axle also appears to be different.

    All these new components are highly likely to be correct, but are now aggravating a previous problem.

    Measure your axle to the ground, and the top shackle bolt to the ground [these measurements should be consistant]
     
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  28. solo_909
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    I think they might be. There's no movement when I step on the bumper brackets and try to bounce it. I'm going to remove the shocks tomorrow and see what happens.
     
  29. solo_909
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    What do you mean when you say front end forgings? If you're looks at the bottom shock mount I think it may just be the camera angle that makes it appear different.
     
  30. Kerrynzl
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    Ford Bones have forgings that are inserted into A-Frame [seen welded here]
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    It could be the camera angle, it is very difficult to diagnose on a forum.
    It is something I spotted and suggest you measure [to either rule out or find the problem]

    The measurements dont lie [speculating can fool everybody]
     
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