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Hot Rods '34 Ford truck with passenger front sheet metal

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  1. Binkman
    Joined: Nov 4, 2017
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    I am looking to do another project for next winter.
    I was looking for '33/'34 sedan delivery with no luck so I will go with "plan B", a '34 p/u with pass. car sheet metal.
    I have a lot of '34 sheet metal already and am looking for any ideas or photo's of similar completed projects.
    I can remember several great examples that were done in the past.
    Does anyone have any photo's or experience with such a project ?
    I am thinking pass. car fenders/grille, etc., 2-door sedan doors, a shortened bed with a very slight chop.
     
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  2. mgtstumpy
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    [​IMG]
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    Big differences in cowl, hood and side curtains, grill, running boards etc and body attaching
    Ozzie coupe ute?
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  3. BJR
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    Looks like you would need the cowl from a passenger car to make it work. Would be very cool if you pulled it off.
     
  4. Corn Fed
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    Trying to meld a 34 car front to a 34 PU cab sounds like a mess to me. You'd be way better off using a Fordor from the center post forward and the rear of a cab from a 35-36. But even that isn't my cup of tea.
     
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  5. Hot Rods Ta Hell
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    I agree that melding the swoopy car front end, cowl and doors to the clunky truck roof, etc will be a mismatch. It'll be tough to not make it look like a hacked off Sedan with a pickup bed.
    If you're going to use pass car sheetmetal all the way through the doors anyway, why not go roadster pickup (ala SAR's 34 RPU body) and use 5 window/4 dr. doors? Might be able to find a reasonable pair that have already had the door tops cut off. Pickup rear panel. Modified open car cowl will be some work. For reference, I believe it was Clark that did a 5/w to roadster conversion on the HAMB converting the cowl and door tops...
     
  6. It would be a lot easier to utilize a '35-'36 cab as that sounds like what you are attempting to emulate. The red Ute that is in Mgtstumpy post is quite extraordinary as it appears to be built off of a 5 Window Coupe with body line extended 1/4 panels. Mgtstumpy, were these actually produced by the Ford Motor Company?
     
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  7. Dirk35
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    I agree with Hot Rods Ta Hell, it would look weird.

    I think if you're doing it to sell just cause you have the spare parts laying around, you'll lose big time as not many people would want either a "33-34 car turned into a pickup", nor a "32-34 style pickup with 33-34 passenger front sheet metal". I cannot think of a single 33-34 Passenger car person that thinks to themselves: "Man, I like the look of this car... but I really wish it had a pickup bed on it". I think you'll have a really tough time selling it.

    However, if you're doing it because it' always been your dream to have a pickup with 33-34 Passenger front sheet metal, then follow your dreams man and do it.
     
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  8. goldmountain
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    Some time ago, Street Rodder ran a series of articles on a truck called the "Tubester" that had passenger car sheet metal with a pickup cab. They sloped the posts and angled them in to help with the discrepancy of the shapes and IMHO, didn't work. Look for a similar vintage Dodge pickup instead. These use passenger car front sheet metal, have suicide doors, and look great.
     
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  9. SlowandLow51
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    I believe that was built by Ron Covell.
     
  10. It was owned by Mike Cooper, not sure that Ron Covell had a hand in creating it.

    Mick
     
  11. ...here's one made out of a 34 sedan...
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  12. Squablow
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    I'm with Warhorseracing, I think this could be done with a 35/36 cab which is much more similar to the 33/34 Ford car, the shape of the cowl and the angle of the windshield looks like it'd mesh up a lot easier, not to mention the '35 truck rear fenders look a lot like 33/34 coupe.

    I definitely think a truck could be neat with the 33/34 car front end, the one above looks good, I just question the use of a same-year cab which is kinda boxy and much more similar to a '32.
     
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  13. Torana68
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    Yes
     
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  14. I wonder why the US market never got them? The Ranchero came out in '55 and sold well. The market would have been there with all of the; coupe, sedans, and two door conversions that were done in the backyards/farmyards to convert into trucks.
     
  15. mgtstumpy
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    The idea for the ute stems from one of practicality. The concept is alleged to have been sparked from a letter written by the wife of a farmer from Gippsland, Victoria, in 1932 to Ford Motors in Geelong. “Why don't you build people like us a vehicle to go to church in on Sunday, and which can carry our pigs to market on Monday?” she asked.

    Lew Bandt, a 22-year-old South Australian engineer working for Ford, responded by drawing up a ‘coupe utility’ model. By modifying a Model T, Bandt’s innovation provided for an enclosed comfortable cabin at the front and a wooden tray on the back. Two years later in 1934, the first Australian ute rolled off the factory floor. Dubbed ‘the Kangaroo chaser’ when presented abroad, it was an instant success among farmers and quickly became an Australian classic and a staple of automakers’ factory floors. Although Australia can’t claim to have invented the first ute, it did combine a more stylish, comfortable and roomier cabin with a light truck body. Even foreign cars that weren’t initially designed as such were reconstructed into utes for the Australian market.
     
  16. mikeymike
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    The first Ranchero debuted 1957.



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  17. mikeymike
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    Looks very good.
    There is a company in Sweden, Kvarnbergs, that produce a cab like that in glass.

    Don’t think it would work using a pickup cab together with 33/34 passenger front.


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  18. I knew that:confused:, fat finger typist.:eek:
     
  19. Thank you Sir for the history this morning. As far as practicality it would seem that a lot of areas would have benefitted by increased sales of vehicles had it been produced out of Australia. Appalachians would have most likely been buyers, haul through the week and go to church in style on Sunday. I wonder if old Henry knew what was going on?
     
  20. krylon32
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    P&J's catalogue has a drawing of a pu with car sheet metal. They are calling it the California Kid Truck.
     
  21. a boner
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    Cut up a roached out 4 door to build the cab.
     
  22. Tim
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    Yeah I’ve seen some photos of it. It insanely nice
     
  23. Binkman
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    Thank you for that info.
    The proportions of that truck work.
     

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  25. pprather
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    This cab is still available in the for sale ads.


    Phil
     
  26. Bandit Billy
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    And never forget rule 3 "just because you can, doesn't mean. you should."
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    Good gawd man, have you no decency!
     
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  28. Bandit Billy
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    It's twue, it's twue!

    I like visual aids, what can I say?
     
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  29. steel3window
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    Here are a few shots from a show in Roseburg, Oregon in 2013. The owner made it from a 2 door sedan that was damaged right across the rear passenger area. I really liked how he used the rear porton of the Tudor with the subtle curve at the bottom rather than being a flat back.

    If you had a Fordor, it would also be possible to do by using the rear quarter windows for an extra-cab or 5 window type look.
     

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