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33 Ford body restoration.

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Mindover, Jun 28, 2013.

  1. Mindover
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    Thanks 36ROKIT I take pride in getting things like door gaps and contours right. Its not too hard once you know how.

    David
     
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  2. Wow David as per usual phenomenal work!!!
     
  3. Mindover
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    Cheers K13 I know you have been following my '27 T on '32 rails thread. I should be getting more space so I will have a larger workshop soon and I will then be able to get the '27 in and work on it.

    I have a few more photos of the work I did on this '33 that I will post up later today- got to work now!.

    David
     
  4. Mindover
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    The roof was an bit battered so every inch of it was worked to get a smooth finish...

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    After...

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    David
     
  5. Mindover
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    All the welding on these parts was done with oxygen and acetylene. The welds were dressed using nothing more than a flipper (slapper) and dolly. I used a file to show the high and low spots.

    David
     
  6. Beautiful work David

    Did you find it in the UK (probably not) ?

    Hennie
     
  7. Mindover
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    It was a customer's car and to the best of my knowledge it was brought over from the US. Thanks for the compliment.

    David
     
  8. Mindover
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    Here are a couple of photos of the welding on the rear fenders from the inside. All welding done with oxy- acetylene. The secret to keeping distortions to a minimum is to make the HAZ (heat affected zone) narrow and even.

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  9. Superspeed
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    When I grow up I want to be like David Gardener
     
  10. Mindover
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    Lol! Thing is I never really grew up.

    David
     
  11. Fantastic work. I find myself sitting and staring at these pictures Thanks for sharing! Even if it does make me feel like an amature!
     
  12. Mindover
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    Thanks Tinbender!.

    a big part of being able to get a good finish on the panels is the welding. Its quite easy to learn, I have taught a lot of people this method teaching part time at college. I show a little of it on my youtube footage. I don't have any photos of the welds before they were dressed on the '33 but here is a similar body showing a typical weld...

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    with little distortion it is a lot less work to smooth the weld.
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    David
     
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  13. Mindover
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    Forgot to say it's gas welding.

    David
     
  14. I gas weld all my sheetmetal. I'm getting pretty good now. That's due to this board and craftsmen like yourself that have taken the time to show and explain their work. It's deeply appreciated!.
     
  15. Excellent work! Stunning!!!
     
  16. Mindover
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    Art
    I always smile to myself when I see people say that gas welding causes too much distortion, it's about using the right technique and putting the joint in the right place. The technique I use is the one used by coachbuilders (metalshapers) for generations. I don't use clamps when tacking for a job like the ones above. It's not hammer welding as used in the US. I trained in gas welding when I was 16 (pipe & plate) and gained proper qualifications. I learned hammer welding from American hot rod magazines in my early twenties, then went to college for one year part time followed by two years full time. That is where I learned this technique.

    David
     
  17. Mindover
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    Thank you, It was quite a bit of work but I was pleased with it. Thanks for looking.

    David
     
  18. Cowtown Speed Shop
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    I hear that!!......Me also...beautiful Work!!
     
  19. mgtstumpy
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    Inspirational, a true artisan.
     
  20. 36 coupe
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    Unbelievable, thanks for sharing, awsome work mate.
    I like the oxy also, only way to go.
    What method do you use to get and keep the metal finish looking like that ?
    Are you tacking every inch or so with zero gap and mostly fusion welding you're joints. Do you do an inch at a time and stop and cool then continue ?
     
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  21. Cyclone Kevin
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    I know that this thread is basically 5 yrs old.
    Noticed all of the pix were hosted elsewhere and are no longer visible. Do you think would be able to repost so we can see what you did, I’m especially interested in the rear window shaping technique.

    Will have to attack that someday on my 34 3 W coupe that I’ve had for 21 yrs.

    Gotta do this one in the near future...... F1B1DF41-0BC1-4E00-A48D-F7BAEC4DC20B.jpeg The one on the left.....The coupe on the right side tracked me.;).
    Below is when I acquired it, May 1996. 72C4EED7-50D0-4265-8ACF-5235342867A0.jpeg 7BCDB2F3-2122-4198-A188-39242E0D7EA3.jpeg 2E43FB48-C686-4F0C-9B7D-F1F6B6F16127.jpeg E9195BE0-0B1E-45C6-B735-E4DB95688536.jpeg
     
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  22. Cyclone Kevin
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    Thanx guys for the heads up on that photo bucket deal. So here’s all of “Mindover’s” pix so they can be seen as they were posted in order. Great Job on this body!!!
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