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Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by pennafxu, Mar 4, 2021.

  1. pennafxu
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    I really like the cartoonish rake on that car above and this rendition... I assume they pie cut the frame. Is it done fore of the cowl? If so does it effect front/rear pinion angles? What about cross members? Do you tack them in after? What about the front 5-7 deg caster that is to be welded in? Should I wait until wheels and body are on? What angles for each aforementioned detail?
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  2. dumprat
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    It would be pie cut at the firewall.
    But as you are going to channel yours just build the frame flat and drop the front of the body down a bit.
     
  3. pennafxu
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    Would the body need to be shimmed on the rails? What is the purpose of the pie cut? and how about the opposed Angle look of frame and body?
     
  4. dumprat
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    You can mount it flat to the frame and pie cut the frame, OR leave the frame stock and mount the body at an angle.
    Make sense?
     
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  5. pennafxu
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    Yes sir I figured that, but why do they angle the front portion up? Purely for aesthetics? And would you need a rear shim to get that look?


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  6. dumprat
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    Where would the shim go? I don't quite understand.
     
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  7. pennafxu
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    To elevate the rear body to achieve the angle, wouldn’t there need to be a shim or something on the back of the frame rails to raise the back end of the frame for the body to sit on?


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  8. Dedsoto
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    Don't lift the body, channel it, 6" in the front 4" in the back
     
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  9. dumprat
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    ^what he said!
     
  10. Ruby32
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    Very cool
     
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  11. pennafxu
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    Took the heads off...
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    With some hot wrenching


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  12. pennafxu
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    Not holding my breath here, but this looks less frozen.


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  13. pennafxu
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    The lifter gallery is a greasy sloppy mess IMG_1667.JPG IMG_1668.JPG
    This block had bolted on water pumps, whereas the previous block didn’t??
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    Came out easy enough.


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  14. pennafxu
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    IMG_1591.JPG
    Before...

    After
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    I TIG welded the opening down some... a little ways to go. I was going to use a small piece of steel but wanted to practice my weld building skills. It’s all about heat control, patience and good shielding. I used a flat ground tungsten also for a wider arc. It’s very difficult not to get rod impurities on the tungsten which causes an unstable arc...


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  15. rusty valley
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    If your other block had no water pumps its a 36 and older. they had the pumps in the heads
     
  16. dumprat
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    That block doesn't lok too bad! I'd soak it in diesel for a month or so. Then see if it comes apart.
     
  17. pennafxu
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    It has the later heads? 49-53 They may have been removed by po


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  18. pennafxu
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    Yaay! Would you remove the innards or wait post soak?


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  19. What are those parts in the molasses soak looking like? Been about 3 weeks now
     
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  20. dumprat
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    I would soak the whole thing. It will make it much easier to get apart and. A lot of the crud should just float away.
     
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  21. pennafxu
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    This weekend we will take a look!


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  22. J'st Wandering
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    If it does not have water pumps in the block, they are in the front of the head. So, similar, sort of, to the 8BA heads, kind of. ;) The early blocks are 21 stud heads rather than the 24 of the later blocks.
     
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  23. panhead_pete
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    Make sure you get that block checked out before spending a cent on parts...
     
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  24. johnsmith45a
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    Where can I get this?


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  25. pennafxu
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    Get what?


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  26. pennafxu
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    Out of the primordial goo... 4 weeks.
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    This is very impressive.


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  27. pennafxu
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    Block looks etched


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  28. pennafxu
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    The bolts were able to turn hand loose... very weird
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    I haven’t even tried to even clean the block yet.

    And now the bad news. The crank rocks about 1/8” up and down but is still frozen. I’m so annoyed. I’m thinking sawzall or milling machine.


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  29. dumprat
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    Flip it over. Wash it off then put bleach on the pistons. Let it soak. It will eat the aluminum enough to knock them down to get the crank out and then pound the piston up.
     
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  30. pennafxu
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    For how long, what type of bleach?


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