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Projects 33’ (3) Patina

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by 33Doll, Jan 12, 2020.

  1. 33Doll
    Joined: Sep 27, 2019
    Posts: 619


    Supposed to be working on the toppers, but I decided to take a few minutes and play around on the top with some fake patina because the top so rusty, and I want to put a new vinyl top in there so I’m practicing turned out pretty good I think can’t really tell!
    Rustoleum Red Primer/gloss black
    Real light coats

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  2. Latigo
    Joined: Mar 24, 2014
    Posts: 641


    Looks like it’s working. Have fun!
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  3. sdroadster
    Joined: Jul 27, 2006
    Posts: 329


    What are you hitting the black with? Steel wool, scotch bright, 2000 grit sand paper?? Can you do a step by step description? thanks..
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  4. 33Doll
    Joined: Sep 27, 2019
    Posts: 619


    I just did a real quick playing around kind of thing, while the glue dried on my top bows I’m working on. So I’ll probably fine-tune it when I really get into it. But here’s what I did so far:
    Since my lacquer is cracked, I got a scraper, and started scraping the loose stuff off, then I sanded it with some 80 grit to get the rust and stuff smoother, but not perfect, then I played around with some white vinegar to Kind of eat some of the rust. Then you could see the primer and bare metal, so I washed it with freshwater, dried it, wiped it with some brake clean, and then some rubbing alcohol just to get it somewhat clean. got a can of red primer rustoleum put two light coats, then two light coats of gloss black rust oleum let it dry for about an hour. Then I got some 400 put a little Dawn dish soap sanded it really lightly till I started seeing just a little bit of primer, then I got a green 3M pad rubbed it really light with that. Then use the blue 3M sponge thing to kind of blend it a little bit. Like I said it was just playing around.
    I think the key to it looking real, is to not sand it’s so smooth that the imperfections go away, it’s actually helping me you can see the original cracks and checks underneath if that makes sense?


  5. Great was wanting to fake some of my stuff......
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  6. 33Doll
    Joined: Sep 27, 2019
    Posts: 619


    Yeah, It’s kinda fun trying to be creative about it! Makes people scratch their heads, or do a double take when they look at it.
  7. Inked Monkey
    Joined: Apr 19, 2011
    Posts: 1,823

    Inked Monkey

    Looks great. To get the pox marks in the paint, you can shoot the primer, then flick some water on it and shoot the black. Once the black sets, wipe off the water drops, revealing the primer beneath.
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  8. 33Doll
    Joined: Sep 27, 2019
    Posts: 619


    I’ve been getting lucky, because the “actual” Patina is leaving all the imperfections, rough areas, high spots, etc. so when I wet sand it, it shows through Looks Hella Natural! Once I scuff the old paint, it will all blend hopefully...cant wait to finish the top, so I can work on that.
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  9. Scrapin’Metal
    Joined: Mar 19, 2018
    Posts: 57


    Initially knowing how it was painted with proper primers first then colors can really make something new look old. Following brushstrokes dry brush and even dirt in the paint will make it more realistic. I really hate it when someone gloss clear coats and makes it shiny.
    Studying other unrestored cars in junk yards really helps to make it realistic. i have done a few and it really tricks some people.
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  10. $um Fun
    Joined: Dec 13, 2008
    Posts: 526

    $um Fun
    from Nor Cal

    Interesting, kind a like a fake orgasm.
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  11. A Boner
    Joined: Dec 25, 2004
    Posts: 5,731

    A Boner

    Try treating the rusty spots with C-L-R before doing what you are doing. Don't forget to neutralize metal before continuing.
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  12. askeever
    Joined: Feb 28, 2009
    Posts: 35


    I've done this before and added a 3rd color. O.D. green lightly sprayed between the red primer and black. You hardly see it but it was just what it needed.
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  13. deathrowdave
    Joined: May 27, 2014
    Posts: 2,248

    from NKy

    The third color is a big big help. Water spots are a huge help also . You live wheee I do and it will be fresh pitina in 3 weeks on bare steel . Make it look real or make it new , some of the fake stuff just isn’t cutting it . There is a HAMBer , that has a Willy’s coupe with faux Pitina that is about as cool as I have ever seen someone finish a car .

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