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Technical '32 Ford 4dr. Hot Rod project

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by dwollam, Mar 9, 2020.

  1. Fortunateson
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    Well I am definitely interested in those! PM me with details please...

    By the way, I've always liked the four doors as they are what most people bought. They also make a very elegant hot rod when they are dressed with their fenders. Plus it's always nice to have more space for extended trips!
     
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  2. I'm amazed at your good fortune with parts. I went through the exact same thing building my 34 coupe. It was so cool! parts I truly needed just fell in my lap...so to speak.
    I really miss central Oregon. Went to high school and graduated from Redmond Union High. The sage brush and juniper trees always smell so good.
    Let me know when you plan to sell the Dodge coupe. Great lines but I thought the big 34 coupes had the opening doors on the hood sides..
     
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  3. dwollam
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    '34 Plymouths had the opening hood doors, Dodge didn't. BTW, I put a for sale sign on the Dodge this last weekend.

    Speaking of parts, my friend brought me the original front fenders for this car this morning. One has some bullet holes like the body and both still have the original patina.

    Dave
     
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  4. dwollam
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    I figured it was time for some updates! I bought a '32 Ford Pickup to get the dropped front axle, chrome spring, Lincoln Brakes and Buick drums. Got it hanging under the sedan. It has stainless steering arms but they locate the tie rod right in the middle of the wishbone. What drop steering arms do you guys recommend? Also I plan to run either a F-100 steering box or if that won't work, an F1 box. I have an F-100 mocked up in it now. Stuck a loop type upper steering arm on it so it will steer to move around. Right now there is a piece of rebar with bolts welded to it for a temporary tie rod so it will roll!

    I also mounted up the patina front fenders. Not sure which pair are in better (worse) shape but it looks better all one color for now. Tires and wheels are temp. Not sure what it will end up with.

    Dave
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  5. Subscribed! I'm hoping to have a 32-34 project someday. Looking good!
     
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  6. alchemy
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    I love the axle, but I'd try to find some 37-48 spindles with stock arms on them. Then you can bend them however you need. And they'll never come loose.

    My sedan uses an F-1 box with the flange cut off and a 32 flange welded on. Gives you plenty of clearance for the pitman. Many guys have clearance issues with F-100 boxes unless they thin down the flange and basically cut a wedge into it.

    The F-1 box will give a little less foot room though as the column comes through the floor below the sector.
     
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  7. clem
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    are the F1 and F100 columns longer, or do you cut them down, (or just have less room in the interior) ?
    Nobody seems to mention column length, when referring to the replacement. Thanks.
     
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  8. alchemy
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    I had a buddy chuck my F-1 column shaft in his lathe and he cut a new taper, keyway, and threads on the end to fit a 40 Ford style wheel. No welding at all. They have a splined end on them originally. Most guys would probably want a taper to use the early style wheels.

    I think they all need shortening. How much depends on the year of the box (I know for sure the F-100 came in different lengths), the dish of the steering wheel you want to use, and your personal comfort.
     
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  9. dwollam
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    Thanks Alchemy! Are you running a flathead in your sedan? If so, what do you have for exhaust on the drivers side?

    I have thought about stock 37-40 spindles. I think I have a right side one already. May look for a left.

    I plan to cut the flange off the steering box and do a '32 style flange.

    I measured the drop in the axle from the ground to top of king pin flat and from the ground to top of perch pin flat and got 5 1/4" difference. On the stock '32 axle I get about 2" or 2 1/8". Or maybe it was 3" or 3 1/8", CRS. That was yesterday! So what do I call this axle? 3" drop or 5" drop? The term was never all that clear to me.

    Dave
     
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  10. clem
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    thanks, I just got a box out of what we call a ‘48 - ‘52 Bonus. I believe that it is the equivalent of the F 1, but I’m not that familiar with them.
    Measures about 80mm (3”) longer than the stock ‘32.
     
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  11. alchemy
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    Yes I have a flathead, it's a 39-48 style block. I found a used header, but I needed to rework the back half of it to clear the steering box.

    When I added the 32 flange to the F-1 box I cut them about an inch and a half from the frame surface and made sure the CL of the mainshaft is the same as the stock 32. Then I had my machinist buddy cut a counterbore to put the F-1 sector seal in the end of the 32 flange.
     
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  12. dwollam
    Joined: Oct 22, 2012
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    Turns out I had a right side 37-40 round back spindle and I got a left side today. More work!!
    Installed the drivers door latch and inside handle mechanism yesterday.

    Yesterday and today I finally got back to work on my '33 Plymouth coupe project. It keeps getting interrupted by other fun projects.

    Dave
     
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