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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by 2Blue2, Nov 11, 2021.

  1. 2Blue2
    Joined: Sep 25, 2021
    Posts: 186

    2Blue2

    I see I never posted photos of dash rail before painting.
    Hand pounded 16ga piece to shape.
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    Tacked and made sure it aligns with door.
    Weld er up!
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    Slight deviation on shape but not horrible.
    Glad that all went good because other side is the bad side.
    That bugger is rough!
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  2. 2Blue2
    Joined: Sep 25, 2021
    Posts: 186

    2Blue2

    Started making these long sliver pieces.
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    With much test fitting and grinding to shape, had my pint size paint tech brush back side and then spray em up.
    Not great, Kinda looks like 90 yr old car part, but not that bad either.
    Glad I get to keep the original old Ford steel or at least some of it, poor patched up bugger.
    Painting in the dirt sucks but still moving forward.

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  3. 2Blue2
    Joined: Sep 25, 2021
    Posts: 186

    2Blue2

    Not planning on spending any more money this year on this project. You know Xmas and family and all.
    Well continue to fix up the parts I have though, and post accordingly.
    :);):rolleyes:o_O:)
    Happy Thanksgiving to all HAMBers everywhere!


    This! some day soon iu.png !
     
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  4. MMM1693
    Joined: Feb 8, 2009
    Posts: 750

    MMM1693
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    Your doing a great job! Hope you have great holidays and keep grinding.
     
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  5. 2Blue2
    Joined: Sep 25, 2021
    Posts: 186

    2Blue2

    Thank you for the words of encouragement.

    If it ends up like your avatar picture it will be sweet!
     
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  6. 2Blue2
    Joined: Sep 25, 2021
    Posts: 186

    2Blue2

    The 3 loads I hauled home from Grandpas garage.
    Body , Frame , Other;
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    Turned into this pile under porch

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    Been Collecting the Various smalls together, some new in the bag. Most labeled '29.:confused:
    Clutch alignment tool new in Ford labeled plastic, lol.
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  7. 2Blue2
    Joined: Sep 25, 2021
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    2Blue2

    Todays 'Thank you Grandpa' item is a wood block kit!
    New in the old box. Probably came with the green sub rails from back in the 80s as his grand child was remembering.

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  8. MMM1693
    Joined: Feb 8, 2009
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    Hey guy, again a great score!
     
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  9. 2Blue2
    Joined: Sep 25, 2021
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    2Blue2

    The Good
    Found a Carriage bolt in bolt bucket and it looks to be stainless. (Bumper Bolt?)
    Spun it in the drill against some 80-1500 grit and some metal polish.
    Shiniest thing on car.
    Thank you Grandpa:)

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    The Bad
    Hey its only off an inch!
    Thats what the blocks are for right?!?
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    The Ugly
    I can see the top of the frame.
    Might be jumping the gun for panel alignment. :confused::(o_O
    That 'patch' popped right off with a little wiggle.
    Was in the way for door edge paint.
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  10. MMM1693
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    that will buff
     
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  11. chiro
    Joined: Jun 23, 2008
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    chiro
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    Body alignment requires blocks, shims, calisthenics, colorful language, adult beverages and seemingly endless time. Clergy and small children should not be within earshot.
    Andy
     
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  12. High test 63
    Joined: May 8, 2020
    Posts: 260

    High test 63
    Member

    2B2,
    So glad i found your thread, its very timely for me as i recently bought a pile of 29 roadster body parts and panels . My plan was to replce the glass body on my heap with gennie steel.
    Your enthusiasm and 'just do it' attitude
    Are a good kick in the ass for me at a time when I'm looking at this pile of crap and saying "i sure wish i knew how to go about this!"
    Good luck and carry on!
     
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  13. pkhammer
    Joined: Jan 28, 2012
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    pkhammer
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    The late Bruce Elder was tall. His Phaeton had the original seat moved back nearly blocking the rear doors. It doesen't appear that he was planning to use the rear seat anyway.

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  14. 2Blue2
    Joined: Sep 25, 2021
    Posts: 186

    2Blue2

    Thats a really neat picture.
     
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  15. 2Blue2
    Joined: Sep 25, 2021
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    2Blue2

    Something seems wonky. Not sure if just me or body/frame.
    So...
    Everybody out of the Tub! Come On, Get!
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    Some Careful leveling, Thoughtful but Merry X~ing, and Some Dedicated to the String Measuring.

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    Xs sweet anywhere you choose to measure it.
    Drivers side rail straight but Passenger side has 1/8 sag by motor mount.

    This frame mostly cherry ! so...I'm a little wonky

    Set any thing out and it rains on it. That'll help the red dirt stick.
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  16. 2Blue2
    Joined: Sep 25, 2021
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    2Blue2

    Still raining.
    Well she is kind of an outside dog.

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    Ditch below lower terrace only has water when raining hard
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    I wiped em down....Starting the blocking over.:confused::eek::cool:
     
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  17. 2Blue2
    Joined: Sep 25, 2021
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    2Blue2

    Dead Soldier
    Gave his all for this project.
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  18. HotRod33
    Joined: Oct 5, 2008
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    Just found your thread and read through it.... Looks like a fun project for you and your daughter....
     
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  19. 2Blue2
    Joined: Sep 25, 2021
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    2Blue2

    Thank you.
    This is how I Feel2

    She just got her first job! So not too much time for this now.
     
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  20. 2Blue2
    Joined: Sep 25, 2021
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    2Blue2

    After fiddling with the blocks, shims, and clamps.
    I can get this door to swing to touch the striker.
    Not very perfect yet though.
    Did manage to chip it up some.

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    But I'm just spinning my wheels and not progressing.
    Pulled my 'cute' boards out and started setting blocks tried clamping.

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    I need to shim to height to compensate for welting and aprons missing,
    I need to be able to cinch the blocks down with a bolt.
    Have to drill holes first.
    Have to locate body before that.
    Have to locate cowl to final destination before that.
    Have to fix cowl mounting before that.

    Cowl sitting on sub rails is very fat and doesn't lie right.
    There is alot of work ahead.
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  21. 2Blue2
    Joined: Sep 25, 2021
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    2Blue2

    Barn kitty has earned her keep into the new year.
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    and a fat meal of yesterdays leftover chicken.
    Good kitty.
     
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  22. 2Blue2
    Joined: Sep 25, 2021
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    2Blue2

    Bag of bolts in wood block box, sorts into this.
    No idea what the pot metal trim piece is but pretty sure its not Model A.

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    I want this.
    I'm now sorry I'm not able to credit the Hamb'er whose pic this is.

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    I have this.
    Trying to level and plumb cowl somewhat.

    This is Assuming the front cowl hole sets cowl location.
    This way both bolts hit the fame cowl bracket but miss on body
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    This way one bolt hits frame bracket but seems more correct as A pillar bolt now lines up.

    So the question is WTF?
    No wait, I mean is this an early frame under my late 31 cowl? Right year but for Murray or Briggs?
    How do I fix this problem?
    I've been searching here on the Hamb and not getting definitive answers.
    Read lots of fun old posts though.

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  23. 2Blue2
    Joined: Sep 25, 2021
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    2Blue2

    This drivers door lock didn't snap out of its coma with a little lube spray.
    Spring broken.

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    Sanded striker to remove some roughness, found a spring but was too big diameter to work.
    Will have 2go 2store 2buy one that fits

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  24. 2Blue2
    Joined: Sep 25, 2021
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    2Blue2

    Having difficulty with hinge pins too.
    Used best 4 pins on back doors.
    Whats left is junk.
    From left to right;

    Piece of copper tube
    Nail
    Closed car smaller pin?
    Worn Phaeton pin
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    Will need some fresher I think.....
    Car came with partial set of closed car hinges, but there no dice.
     
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  25. 2Blue2
    Joined: Sep 25, 2021
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    2Blue2

    Busy week
    Not much got done.
    Been saving this fat piece of sheetmetal. It mics out at almost .0700 so getting close to 14 gauge.
    Some of that is patina but fatter than 16 gauge for sure.
    Got started patching mounting holes in cowl.
    Got front welded up then cleaned porcupine off back side and welded some there too.
    Tried not to grind/thin the parent metal too much.

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  26. 2Blue2
    Joined: Sep 25, 2021
    Posts: 186

    2Blue2

    This;
    Frame info from The Restorer magazine May/June 2007 pg.17

    FRAME ASSEMBLY A-5005-D

    On September 18, 1930, Release Number 17050 Supplement #18 saw the Body Bracket on Frame – Front move to the rear 2-3/8 inches (Fig. 18).

    This frame was assigned to the Standard Fordor Sedan 160-A, the Town Sedan 160-B and the Victoria 190-A.



    So not the right frame for my Phaeton but close enough.:rolleyes:;):cool::D
     
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  27. 2Blue2
    Joined: Sep 25, 2021
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    2Blue2

    Other side...
    My patching progress since start of year,
    Still got another hole to go where the toe board support sits.
    A couple of 90 degree bends got welded together to make toe board support patch.
    I Keep Trying to move forward in my 1/2 hour after work each day

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  28. 2Blue2
    Joined: Sep 25, 2021
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    2Blue2

    Barn kitty getting out of the weather.
    Raining fairly hard.
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    She be Throughly disgusted and annoyed with the winter rains.
    This is the closest we ever got yet.
    Started making my own block set with projected shimming height built in.
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  29. MMM1693
    Joined: Feb 8, 2009
    Posts: 750

    MMM1693
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    Yea its a slow process. Took me four years to build my coupe after staring at the body for five years wondering why I bought it. Don't get in a hurry and stick to your plan. Doing a little every day after work gets it done and keeps outta the saloons.
     
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  30. 2Blue2
    Joined: Sep 25, 2021
    Posts: 186

    2Blue2

    Wow, my 2 and 1/2 year plan seems pretty optimistic now.
    Just gonna keep moving forward... ...on past the watering holes, lol. Mostley;):D
     
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