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Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Joe Lemay, Mar 8, 2018.

  1. Joe Lemay
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    Accidently found a great patch for the A.
    Walking the junk yard looking at roofs spotted a 04 jeep grand Cherokee and invitioned on backwardsNo reshaping required! 0308182009.jpg 0308182009a.jpg 0308182009.jpg

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  2. dan31
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    Did you envision it on upside down too.:D
     
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  5. GASSERBOB
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    Looks like it fits nice. Looks good. Bob............
     
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    I was wondering how you hung the car from the ceiling.....
     
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    looks good too
     
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    Joe, that looks great...and no shaping at all? Wow. I might consider that for my 30 Tudor. So, when you went to the yard did you get the whole roof....I mean you cut the door and window posts or did you cut the panel out on site? Just curious if I do this. And you must have used cordless saw??
    Thanks for any info.
     
  10. sloppy jalopies
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    buddy used a no ribs Volvo wagon roof on his A sedan, trim it big it is a tight fit... DSCN0817.JPG DSCN0816.JPG
     
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    That is nice info for the memory bank . I prefer the ribs , to stop possible oil caning while driving at warp speed .


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  12. Joe Lemay
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    Yes, cut at pillars. These a roof rack system that you got to remove once home, it double paneled under it. Cut a slot to get seawall blade in to remove the center. You'll also note I had to close up the opening a couple of inches. Now prep surfaces for panel bond...no welding, you don't want to lose shape.

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    And yes, bring 4 charged batteries

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    GMC vans also have square ribbed roofs (some years) and may be easier to find. They drop in place with no bending required.
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  17. Joe Lemay
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    Nice build, right grill an wheels for that car

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  18. How thick is the metal on that roof?
     
  19. Hombre
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    That looks very nice, you did a great job. I used a roof from a BMW station wagon when I did mine, also very little work on the contour, makes me wonder just how many more modern cars have roof panels that would work on a Model A? IMG_2654 (Small).JPG
     
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  20. Joe Lemay
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    I 3m panel bonded it to avoid warping, never did put a micrometer to it

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    The old standby was 62/63/64 GM station wagon roofs. How do the ones mentioned here stack up to those? I mean has anyone used the GM roof that can (from experience) say how much work was involved or if the contour needed reshaping? I ask because there's a good probability that I might soon be involved in filling a 30/31 sedan with said Chevrolet roof. I would like to know ahead of time if we would be better off finding a different roof to use.
     
  22. Joe Lemay
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    Understand your concern.,
    A van or station wagon roof you must admit is pretty flat. I STUMBLED. on this 04 Jeep roof keeping the model a contour in mind. The jeeps windshield curls downward like the Ford's rear section and the rear window of the jeep flattened like the Ford's windshield.(mines on backwards) Also I felt that around the "B" pillar the roof dives down toward the windshield..the jeep had all of that.
    I also know I don't think I could locate an early 60's donor wagon be it chevy, ford or mopar at this time.
    Good luck with your project, hope this was some help.

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    Thanx, Joe.

    A friend and I cut this one off of a Chevy over 20 years ago in a boneyard that's been closed and scrapped out for over 10 years. It's what is there so I'm really interested in hearing from anyone who has performed this before so I can decide whether to use what we have or if we should be looking for a Jeep roof.

    b-t-w; yours turned out really nice. You did a good job on it.
     
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  25. Joe Lemay
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    In one of my other posts I mention that I added about a 3" flange to the A opening .
    By the time I trimmed our the jeep I needed surface to glue to. Seriously, there was no shrinking, stretching or reshaping to do. My biggest gap couldn't have been 1/16". Put sand bag weights on it when bonded.

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  26. NashRodMan
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    Joe, are those the filler pieces I see going down the sides, like the roof panel wasn't wide enough? ?
     
  27. Joe Lemay
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    Correct, you do want the metal on top because (but on tight) as you fill you need your mud to stop before the rib. Otherwise , if butt fit you'll have a valley or you'll be filling into the rib.

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  28. Cree
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    Did you leave side and cross wood in to support the patch in position when installing , and afterward? And also while the side fillers were welded in?
     
  29. 5window
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    Very nice job. And good info for the future as older parts become more scarce. I might prefer one without ribs,but that's a matter of personal choice and yours looks really good.
     
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  30. Joe Lemay
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    Sorry about the late response.
    No, the original wood gone. The roof came with 2 supports and kept them in to hold the shape. Did make extensions to reach the opening ridge.

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