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302 Ford oil preasure

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by carbuilder, Apr 19, 2013.

  1. carbuilder
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    What is considered normal oil preasure at idle for a used Ford 302 150 hp I have a friend that has a 302 with c4 trans used good runner but the oil preasure is about 20 lbs at idle is that a little low or normal do we need to pull the pan & check the bearings & pump.
     
  2. Gearhead Graphics
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    Sounds about right to me... the M motors would drop down to less than 5 at idle.
     
  3. Fenders
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    10 - 20 at idle is fine,
    30 - 40 at cruise....
     
  4. Yup
    What they said
     

  5. Both of mine run 30 plus hot at idle. 20 is for chebbys
     
  6. Dave Mc
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    at Operating Temps,My 302 w/Carb idles @ 15-20 lbs my F.I, 302 H.O motor idles @ 20-24 lbs
     
    Last edited: Apr 20, 2013
  7. 40fordtudor
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    My built 302 carries 70 lb when cold and drops to around 25 at 195 degrees---
     
  8. Mine is almost 40 when cold and drops to just below 30 when warmed up. I use 10w-30 oil.
     
  9. The 302 in our wagon reads almost the same. HRP
     
  10. carbuilder
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    Thanks guys I will let him know we did not want to pull the pan I will tell him to change the oil & filter as it is dirty he just picked up the motor & c4 trans for a project he is gathering parts for the motor has a 4 barrel holy. I am still recovering from 2 back & 2 neck surgerys over a 10 day span so my help & work is limited for about another month but I feel great no pain in the legs & right hip any more & no numbness in the right arm & hand. Going stir crazy while in the recovery mode, no pain pills, no tylonal, no aleave, no ibprofen of any kind I am feeling the best I have in 8 or 9 years Thanks again for the quick response.
     
  11. George
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    Get a Wix filter & pre SM oil!:)
     
  12. 40FordGuy
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    Ditto, what they said..... Same applies to the 351 W motors as well.

    4TTRUK
     
  13. carbuilder
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    what is pre sm oil
     
  14. JeffB2
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    from Phoenix,AZ

  15. George
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    SM & SN has no zinc/ZDDP, earlier oil like SF rated Accel Brand 10W-40 @ Wal-Mart does. Put zinc in search & start reading!:)
     
  16. carbuilder
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    Thanks guys I will let him know.
     
  17. 69thumper
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    you should have 10 psi per 1000 rpm minimum. a little more isn't bad. a lot more just robs horsepower a higher rpm's. built a few nascar engines over the years, just a general rule of thumb.
     
  18. tjm73
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    My 5.0 Mustang ran near 60psi cold (fresh after an oil change) and around 50 hot at anything above idle. Idled about 30-35 always. This was with 20-50W oil and as observed on a mechanical guage.
     
  19. 57Custom300
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    Agreed. The one in my Ranchero was almost that bad. Found that if you put 20w/50 oil in it the pressure will come up.
     
  20. 40FordGuy
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    It sounds good to me.....Mine runs in that range.

    4TTRUK
     
  21. T.L.
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    Mine is 70 PSI when cold; drops to around 55 when warm. Idling in "Drive" when hot is about 35. This engine has only 2500 miles on it with a standard-volume oil pump.
     
  22. Truckedup
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    A little off topic,I've been told that SBF's need like 100 psi oil pressure to survive when pushing a lot of power for circle track. Any truth to it?
     
  23. Engine man
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    We never ran that high. We set the oil pump relief valve at 60psi and ran Valvoline 50 weight Racing oil back in the 70s.
     
  24. rustyford40
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    I just lost oil pressure in my 5L HO.. oil is good on the stick. but the guage sayes no
     
  25. ckunsman89
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    I second this. I have also seen quite a few distributer problems in small fords running high pressure pumps. The pumps create more drag and wear the bushings in the distributer.
     
  26. Particularly in the later distributors. Ford's originally had upper and lower bushings, but when they went to electronic and there was no more side load from the points they eliminated the lower bushing and too much oil pressure will cause pre-mature wear on the upper.
     
  27. tjm73
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    The SBF does not need a high pressure pump. It will cost you more than you gain. Hi volume is ok.
     

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