300 hp 327 with 2bbl intake? WTF?

1963?

 

Every 300 hp 4 speed car I saw in 63 and 64 had factory tachs.

 

My book shows that suffix code could be anything from a 1958-1959 283 2brl, to a 1964-1967 283 2brl, to a 1968-69 307 2 brl...need to get the casting numbers off of the back of the block on the drivers side to verify engine.

 

nope, not a '63 engine.

 

Of course it's easy to believe that in 50yrs someone didn't beat the livin shit out of a 4spd Impala and blew the original motor...

 

Will do when the engine is out.So the general consensus is that this is NOT a 1963 327?

 

I don't see a DE Suffix code for a 327...only 283's and 307's.

Here's a pic from my book...

 

Orig. motor mighta popped and they put heads on 'nother (283) motor.I dunno what this guy paid for it but he bought it as a numbers matching car...I will find out more soon...Thanks!

 

you thank me now, but wait till you get my bill...

 

HA! I will just pass it on to the car owner...Aint that the way ever one else does it?

 

Also, the 4-speed shifter is from a '64 and up. '63 had a smaller round shifter with a small white shifting ball and no finger release to shift into reverse. ray...

 

Thanks! I have never seen a bone stock 63 S.S. 4-speed car.

 

Exactly....

This car has obviously been seriously fucked with. In 1972 I bought a 65 Vette with 2.5" exhaust, Holley on aluminum intake and a tach redline that indicated a 350 horse motor. I paid 1,300 for it so I didn't quibble about the 283 valve covers with the staggered bolt holes. Turns out the motor was a 250 hp 327 with 1950's 283 heads. You never know what someone will throw together to get a car running to sell it.

 

Chevrolet says "true Dat" Unless it was a COPO

From the 61 Dealer Manual

 

I think I have seen those shifters.They have a very skinny lever and a plain white knob...no?

 

All you've got to do is run the #'s stamped on the front of the motor. It'll tell you what you've got. there are websites to help you out there.
When those were assembled at the factory, they used whatever was coming down the line sometimes.
I had a '65 Malibu SS convert that was labeled as a 327 /250 horse but it had the bigger heads and an AFB carb. Making it a 300 horse right from the factory. Lots of unusual stuff happened back then.

 

Ya I have the numbers and am told it is everything BUT a 1963 engine.... FO627DE

 

After all this time anythings possible. Back in the early 70's I had a 66 Chev 3/4T truck that needed a new or rebuilt motor. It was a 283 2brl, a friend had a newly rebuilt 327/300 hp short block. Well that went into the truck with the 283 heads and intake

 

You could pull the casting number and date code off the intake manifold to obtain information on that part of the engine prior to pulling it. That information is easily decoded. Same for the exhaust manifolds.

 

So many variables have already been covered. The first thing i noticed was previously mentioned in that if it did come from factory with the 327/300 it would have 6k tach on the dash. In either case it's a beautiful car and the intake, carb and tach could have been and still can be easily updated to suit your desires.

 

The shifter boot is correct for a for a 63 4 Speed and they are not being repopped so that is a point for the factory 4 speed.

 

Remember... SS was a trim package, hot engines was another package. Neither required the other to be set up on the assembly line.

 

With a 4-speed and rally wheels???... It had to have the rally wheels on account the manditory front power disc brakes..

 

I heard of that woman. In fact, I
practicably almost, sort of knew
her even!. It's definitely a true
story. She was the next door
neighbour of one of my former
buddies' ex-girlfriend’s best
friend's second cousin's milkman's
combination psychiatrist. podiatrist
and gynaecologist, back in the day.
She was a widow too. Her late
husband was the guy who died
and who's body sat, undiscovered
for 6 months in that mythical
non-existent, mint condition '63
Corvette that subsequently kept
getting sold and resold over and over
again for 100 dollars until the last
owner finally gave up and had the
car crushed, because nobody could
ever get the smell out. They had a
son too! You know- the one who
died in the Vietnam war and left a
mint condition ' 427 Shelby Cobra' -
or factory 'fuel-injected 283/283hp '
57 Chevy Nomad', or - '65 factory
altered-wheelbase Hemi Dodge' - (or
any other rare exotic and impressive
sounding car of the storyteller's choice)
- stored in his mother's garage. Even
now 40 or 45 odd-years later it's still
there, rotting and rusting away into
nothing.....and she won't sell it
because she's still waiting for her long
dead son to come home from the war
and drive it again. About that special
2-bbl Z-28 that she had too - don't
bother trying to track her down and
buying that car either , it's long
gone. Apparently the 2-bbl carb
that got put on it was one of those
secret experimental '200 mpg with
zero emissions' carburetors that
everyone knows exist but are
suppressed and kept from us by the
auto manufactures. the oil companies
and the government. As soon as word
got out that her Z-28 had accidentally
been fitted and released with a one
of the secret, 200 mile-per-gallon
experimental; carbs on it, agents
working for GM, EXXON and the U.S
Government quickly moved in and
seized the car. In return for the car
back and for her continued silence
and complete and total denial of
ever owning it even, GM gives her a
brand new Cadillac every year and
will do so for for the rest of her life.
Now you know.....the rest of the
story!!!

Mart3406
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Mart3406, I've heard bits of that story ad thought it was just conspiracy nuts talking, but now that I read it on the Internet, I know it's true!


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i am married to her daughter---we drive a one year old caddie...

 

is that a song.should be!

 

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Hey..do you think I could make
this kind of stuff up??!! And
besides, like you said, you read
it here...on the internet, so it
absolutely must be true!!!

Mart3406 ("Who knows and
believes as absolute fact, that
there's really only three things
left that you can still believe in
and trust completely anymore
- 1) Wrestling on TV, 2) Anything
and everything that your boss at
work tells you, and 3) anything
and everything that you read on
the internet!")
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i allways beentold to look at harmonic ballancer 1inch thick it is a high performance possible 4-bolt and 010 at the end of cast nr at the rear more nickel in iron when cast.this is most for later 350 engines but anyway chevrolet put better stuff on hp engines.here in sweden stories told about engins from powerplant (generator)with lti 350 engines that had less then 200hours of wear.all engines from american army (in west germany) got somhow to sweden in 70-80ties i have helped unload several trucks this way.
on picture is it an 283 possibe 307 harmonic baliancer.
ken
sweden

 

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(Rant Alert!)

Jeeze...will this myth and 'old
wives' tale' about 010 blocks
ever, ever die?? Even here on
the HAMB, it just keeps getting
repeated, regurgitated and
resurrected..again and again
and again! A "O1O" casting mark
on a SBC block merely signifies
that the block was cast with a
4-INCH BORE. It DOES NOT
signify - "higher nickle content",
"higher tin content" ,"higher
unobtanium content" - or that
it was a 'Corvette' and/or 'Z-28'
or 'Special High-Performance'
or 'HD truck' engine - or that
the casting was personally
blessed at the factory by either
Smokey Yunick and/or by Bill
Jenkins - or that it has "4-bolt
mains" or a "steel crank" or any
other such NONSENSE!!!. "OI0"
casting mark = a 4 Inch bore -
NOTHING MORE and NOTHING
LESS. - (End of Rant)

Mart3406
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