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Technical 3-D Printing Taillights

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by scotts52, May 19, 2017.

  1. gimpyshotrods
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    I have an entire AR-15 lower that I 3D printed from carbon fiber reinforced co-polymer polyester. I probably spent 10-minutes cleaning it up after printing.

    It has had over 1000 rounds through it, and has been exposed to harsh cleaning chemicals. Zero issues.

    We use FDM and SLS 3D printed parts on assembly line production machines and testing machines, to make individual pieces of equipment that retail for upwards of $250,000, on long runs, with perfect repeat-ability.

    Little to no cleanup, constant exposure to harsh chemicals, and cyclic exposure to high intensity UV light. Zero issues.

    If your 3D printed parts are not long lasting outside, you are using the wrong material.
     
  2. abe lugo
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    All I'm saying your not going to print clear or tinted glass, Yet. At least on the budget 95% of folks here are on. Glad to know those lasting polymers do exist though.

    Just like removing rust with a 250k laser rust blasting machine.
     
  3. wsdad
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    Wouldn't it just be easier to cut them out of a chunk of plastic? A CNC machine makes more sense to me than a 3D printer. It's like trying to make a head by welding layer upon layer of steel, verses cutting a head out of a block of steel.


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  4. anthony myrick
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    there are printers that do that, CNC controlled welders that can print objects in metals
     
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  5. Bcuda69
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    Scott, you could work with Shapeways.com See their materials. They have UV cured frosted acrylic they claim is watertight and suitable to 176°F. They can also produce items in metals by lost wax process.


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  6. RTi04
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    I've done a fair amount of 3D printing, and I don't think the technology is there yet. SLA (UV-cured resin) will give you the best result, but it's not UV stable and will get yellow and very brittle soon after being exposed to sun. Any FDM process (where filament is melted and built up layer by layer, like Makerbot, etc) can be UV stable, but the resolution will look like garbage. It would require a TON of sanding and polishing to get it to where you'd want to use it, and even then...probably not. As people have mentioned, your best use of a 3D printed lens would be to use it to make a mold for casting. If I remember correctly, the UV cured frosted acrylic that Bcuda69 mentioned falls under the SLA problem - it uses UV to cure the resin during the printing process, but doesn't stand up well to constant UV exposure (though I might be wrong).
     
  7. gimpyshotrods
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    I am working with full size commercial FDM 3D printers, not hobby stuff. If 0.0015mm is not accurate enough, I cannot help you.
     
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  8. gimpyshotrods
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    Here are two images, direct from the page of our Stratasys Fortus 900mc:
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  9. rladams65
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    I am about to venture down this path for a '62 Mercury Monterey. My plan is to design & print in PLA until I get a pretty good fake. Then use the PLA as a form for a silicon mold and cast the replacement in resin. Not sure what I will do about the chrome accent on the crown of the lens - either some metal paint to be done with it or cast a metal accent, chrome dip that, and then JB ClearWeld it onto the lens.

    Considering the cost of a [not very good] replacement and the crazy price for a nice example, I have plenty of space to experiment.

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  10. David Gersic
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    Find the thread on the Ford dash “waterfall” being done as a 3D print. I don’t know if the chrome there would hold up to outdoor use, but it might give you some ideas.
     
  11. cretin
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    A friend of mine makes 3D printed tail light lenses. I’m not sure what filament he uses, but he prints them in clear and then he sprays them in red candy. Here is some of his work.
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  12. Rand Man
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    My son works for a rapid prototyping firm. Like others have said, most everything that comes out of a 3D printer requires hand finish work.
     
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  13. hotrodjack33
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    Well, 3D printing isn't very traditional...but I guess having to pay $250 for a NOS tail light ain't all that traditional either...:(
     
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  14. lostone
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    To me 3d printers ain't nothing more than another tool for us to use.

    Mig welders, plasma cutters etc ain't traditional either but we still use them everyday to build our dream cars ;)
     
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  15. Beanscoot
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    Wow, those look great!

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  16. Fortunateson
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    Your buddy has talent. He could do a few at a time of those that are difficult to find.
     
  17. abe lugo
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    I like the ones above but those still needed some clean up. Or light sanding to make the clear and tint stick. A this point they are printing some cool stuff. But once again. Save up and buy the real deal. You will eventually find it at and ok price if you wait it out.
    Otherwise have a friend that can print some out and you can just spray them red tint. Nevermind having the know how to make 3D files and set them up and all that tech mumbo jumbo.
     
  18. Those look good. I'm guessing he's not using a machine that melts layers of filament together though.

    Inexpensive FDM printers that use spools of material are not creating parts that look like that.
     
    Last edited: Sep 13, 2021

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