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289-c4 in a duece chassis. Words of wisdom needed.

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by solid, Feb 21, 2009.

  1. solid
    Joined: May 20, 2007
    Posts: 1,459

    solid
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    I have changed my mind a few times getting ready for this build. I need some advise, for putting a sbf/c4 in my gennie duece chassis. I am going to run a mechanical fan, and wonder if any one in hamb land has some wise words, or know of any magic parts that i will need in doing so. I had it roughed in for sbc/turbo350 already, but changed my mind. I have donated the chev to a buddys project.
     
  2. 63Compact
    Joined: Feb 14, 2007
    Posts: 1,178

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    Go for it I have a sbf and auto in my 32 roadster but I dont run a fan. If you want any pics P.M. me and I'll send you some. Good luck take heaps of pics and keep us posted.
     
  3. eric15739
    Joined: Nov 10, 2006
    Posts: 7

    eric15739
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    from Detroit

    If you are still in mock up stage then make sure you get the fan close to the radiator and parallel if possible. I have a 302 and made that mistake. I have about a 6 in gap and sometimes have cooling issues at low speeds.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>
     
  4. Henry Floored
    Joined: Sep 18, 2004
    Posts: 1,370

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    Why not use the "short" water pump from ford racing and save yourself an inch and a half in engine length.
     

  5. Mine has a early water pump, which is shorter than the later one. I run a mechanical fan, mechanical fuel pump, GM style alt (although I used to have the Ford Alt in the same place. For oil filter you need a short one, I use the Fram PH16 Extra Guard. You can see the water pump, oil filter, fuel pump and non recessed firewall in this pic.
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  6. Uptown83
    Joined: Apr 23, 2007
    Posts: 722

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    i have a sbf with a t5 in my 32.. Im running a mechanical fan. No idea if i have the short water pump or not.. its all stock from a 83 mustang. I have only about a inch or so from my fan and radiator.
     
  7. Weasel
    Joined: Dec 30, 2007
    Posts: 6,693

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    Early SBF water pumps exit on the passenger side (but are not much shorter), so you can use a radiator set up for a SBC, which are much more common and, hopefully cheaper than Ford specific radiators - especially used radiators. Snow White's shorty water pump conversion (standard rotation) is what I use when I need a shorter installed length . www.snowwhiteltd.com
     
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  8. bluestang67
    Joined: Feb 7, 2007
    Posts: 589

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    Short water pumps were available in 94-95 Mustangs and 5.0 Explorers of similar years . They are reverse rotation due to the serpentine in the Mustangs . I picked a system up to stuff under the hood of my Model A with some cutting the A/C - p/s bracket it will have air. .


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  9. Actually the pass side pumps (early) are 5.42" from the back of the pump to the pulley flange while the drivers side versions (late) are 5.75". Not a lot, but when you have the wrong pulleys it's all the difference in the world.
    I have run the Snow White version on my Model A which uses an Opel water pump.
    Ford Racing used to sell a nice short pump with V Belt pulleys but they dropped it and only have a serpentine version now.

     
  10. Weasel
    Joined: Dec 30, 2007
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    Snow White conversion - on a Cleveland block - but similar to 289/302W conversion.

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  11. Deuce Daddy Don
    Joined: Apr 27, 2008
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    Deuce Daddy Don
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    My advice is to run an electric fan!!----No problems-- 300,000 miles now!!
     
  12. I started out with a 99 explorer 5.0. I used an adapter and a reverse rotation fan. The centerline of my fan is low enough that it wasn't going to be enough to run the ac or run around town in slow traffic. I bought the Walker electric fan and removed the mech fan. I think I'm in good shape now but I won't know until it gets to 100 degrees out. I also have a full hood if that makes any difference and my current engine is a 347. I used the explorer alt. mount and idler on the large alum. bracket. I used an Alan Grove compressor mount on the left hand side. The alternator barely clears the hood after off setting the engine about.375" to the left in construction. I also have the short oil filter but have since found one that napa sells that is about half the lenght of the short one. I saw it on a guys t-bucket a few years ago. I don't have a clearance problem with the filter. I also used a unisteer rack for steering.
     

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