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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by AndersF, Oct 17, 2015.

  1. AndersF
    Joined: Feb 16, 2013
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    This is a thread i have intend to start a long time. A couple of years ago i
    buy me a incomplete model-T body to build a hotrod. And that is the reason
    i ended up here off all places in the cyberspace. I was really lucky to find a
    very reliable seller at ebay so i could collect what i was missing.
    I had see the episodes when Burbank chopper build the Bad news.
    So i started to google to see whats else was out there.
    One off the first coupe that come up that i like was this one.
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    I even start to collect some parts to do something like this when i come to
    mind that i allways wanted a 50:s styled hotrod. At least since 1988 when
    i read Hotrod magasines 40 years anniversery. So i did some more searching
    on internet for 50:s hotrods and i constantly come to Hamb.
    I allso find the car to have as my main inspiration here.
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    I now got a plan and collected the parts i needed to get started.
    I aim to do circa 1960 styled hotrod. I cant build it pure as i want
    it becouse it will be a new car. Some things i have to hide as good as
    i can and other will be used only at the tech inspections i have to do.
    The plan.
    A home made frame off 2x4 tubing i model-A style.
    Model-A front axle.
    Socal hairpins
    Buick alu brakedrums in front.
    Squareback spindels.
    55 Dodge engine
    66 Ford 3 spd man
    77 Dodge rearaxle
    Model-A rear spring
    7,10-15 bias ply in front www
    8,20-15 bias ply in back www
    Wheelcovers
    32 grille shell
    Around 6--7 inch chop
    Cyclestyle fenders
    So lets start the build. At least here.
    I allready have 2 year in it so far.
    I started to put some things together to see how it looks.
    When i have the propotions where i wanted i made a drawing
    how to build the frame on a bit off cardboard.
    I allso ordered a tubing so then it was time to start building.
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  2. that's a long bit of tubing!! looking forward to seeing it come together.
     
  3. Patiently waiting. HRP
     
  4. Jalopy Joker
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    great project, just need to get at it
     
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  5. AHotRod
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    That looks like it's going to be a really nice Hot Rod, I look forward to seeing more.
     
  6. Nice plan and inspiration.
     
  7. volvobrynk
    Joined: Jan 30, 2011
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    from Denmark

    Looks very inspirational! I spy an MKP caravan in the background too. MKP grand or grandesse?

    Danish quality and ingenuity from a small firm by kolding in Denmark.

    I will be following this!
     
  8. AndersF
    Joined: Feb 16, 2013
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    The tubing was close to 40 feet (12 meters)
    I going to make a z both in front and rear.
    Not wery common at the time but my plan is to give the impression off a
    heavily channeled body but save some valuble space on the inside.
    As a first time builder i get some really helpful information about framebuilding
    in Youngsters T-bucket plans. http://www.netquickposse.org/tbucketeers/Youngsters_T_Bucket_Frame_Plans_V1_0.pdf
    To make 2 matching rails i made a simple jig.
    I added 8 inch on the frontrails to make the Z.
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    Then i cut off the frontrails in 45° where i wanted the Z.
    Cut a long V in the rails to taper them.
    Clamped the straight side to a tubing to keep things straight during the welding.
    It took forever to weld. Weld 1 inch flip side weld again jump 3 inches and start over.
    Let it cool down until you can lay your hands on it, clean it with a wire bruch and start over.
    I guess i dont have to tell the importance off proper prepation on the weldingseam.
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    Then i cut out some material in the rails to keep them hollow all the way.
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    I made a simple weldingtable to make the rails.
    Made sure everything was level and take a plumb blob to mark a middleline
    so i could make sure things were symetrical and to take triangluated messuments.
    I think this was a really scary part off the build. With all the frameparts loose and
    knowing other the perfect match off the rails will make my car useless.
    I dont know how much time i spending on messuring but it pay off.
    When all was said and done they were perfect match.
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    It is a 68 Grandesse.
     
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  9. Cool build Anders,i will follow along with great interest.:cool::) JW
     
  10. hrm2k
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    this should be a cool build Anders. Good luck, I'll be watching. Here is mine with an 8 inch chop just as a point of reference friday4a.jpg
     
  11. 55willys
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    Nice work on the frame. I like it when a frame is so nice that it seems a shame to cover it with a body.
     
  12. AndersF
    Joined: Feb 16, 2013
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    Thanks all for watching and kind responds.
    Hrm2k i really like your car. I think it is one off the best looking coupes out there.
    Now when my rails was ready it was time to make a frame off them.
    I put them back on my weldingtable and measure them to their final position and tack them.
    I first started with the rearaxle but change my mind. I wanted to do the crossmember first.
    And to do the crossmember i needed the motor and transmission in place first.
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    And then up with the engine and start to determine the position off it.
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    My oilfilter interfear with the frame and i wanted to keep the stock one for look.
    So i cut out a pice in the frame and welded in a plate to mount my engine lower.
    Im later find out i did the work for nothing when i had to lower the engine more.
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    I allso tested the frontaxle so i dont get any problem with the steeringrods.
    But i did not see any problem there so i could go on.
    I will keep the stock enginemounts in front and will need rear mounts
    that take the twisting from the engine.
    Im started to fab a rearmount that would be mounted with the gearbox bolts.
    But the more time i spended on the first version the more i hated it.
    In the end i have to realise it that it was a pice scrap i built.
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    Its now way i could do anything useful with that pice. Well just start over and do it right.
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    Then i fabbed up some mounts to put on the frame.
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  13. AHotRod
    Joined: Jul 27, 2001
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    What ride height are you aiming for Anders?
     
  14. falcongeorge
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    from BC

    LOVE the wheelcovers, man what a difference!
     
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  15. Jalopy Joker
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    Thanks for info

    Sent from my VS985 4G using Tapatalk
     
  16. AndersF
    Joined: Feb 16, 2013
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    I have not think about to much what it is in inches. Just eyeballing it where i think it looks cool.
    But for the techinspection i need lowest part free from ground with flat tires all around.

    With the rear motormounts in place i needed something in the front.
    I just keeped the stock mount and added tabs on the frame for them.
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    And then it was time to make something to mount the front spring.
    I have replica off a model-A but i didnt like how it was made.
    So i take a pice off tubing that laying around and made my own.
    And then i take my cooler to determine where i wanted it.
    Decided that 1 inch betwin waterpump and cooler is what i want.
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    And now started the summer.
    It took me 6 mounths to come this far and i was not wery impressed by myself.
    But reading others buildthreads it seems to be a normal pace for garagebuilt hotrods on sparetime.
    So i was very pleased with what i did after all.
    I did not do much on the car during the summer. I got alot off other things to do.
     
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  17. 60 Belair
    Joined: Feb 19, 2006
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    Looks cool keep up the good work!
     
  18. brad2v
    Joined: Jun 29, 2009
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    Coulda swore I commented here already, must have hit a wrong button. Anyway, nice build, glad you started a build thread Anders
     
  19. AndersF
    Joined: Feb 16, 2013
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    Thanks.
    When i got started again it was crossmembertime.
    I started at the rear motormounts and then worked towards the rear.
    I allso made some notches to run the exhaust thru.
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  20. AndersF
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    To make my own x-member i toke a pice of tubing and splitted it in half.
    I allso drilled and tapped some holes every 8 inch on the rails to clamp
    fuel and brakelines. I guess it will be difficult with the x-member in place.
    I could then do some initial mock up to get them in place.
    Then i added some some holes to give them some kind of stock apperence.

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  21. Progressing well.:cool::) JW
     
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  22. Tim_with_a_T
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    Looking great, Anders!
     
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  23. AHotRod
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    Nice work !
     
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  24. AndersF
    Joined: Feb 16, 2013
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    Thanks all.
    Tim, Your latest updates on your build is really looks great to.

    The next job was to put some notches for exhaust in the x-member.
    A boring work but i want to run my exhaust high in the frame.
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    Then i started to fab some suport betwin the framerail and x-member.
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    And finally i split a pice of tubing to make the pices i need to connect the x-member in the middle.
    But theese aint welded in yet. I waiting with that until im sure the engine and trans is in its final place. I allso need to know where driveshaft and handbrakes routing are before.
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  25. Cool stuff Anders, lots of photos.....love it !!!:cool::cool::D JW
     
  26. AndersF
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    I am a lousy writer and to do it in english dosn't help. :D
    But i think if i write a bit and add some pictures most people understand what i doing.

    With the crossmember in place it was time to mount the rearaxle.
    I had a idea how to mount it but chicken out becouse i was not sure to pass the
    swedish tech inspection. So i ended up with a regular 4-link.
    A link to a thread i started about hanging up my rearaxle.
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/will-this-rear-suspension-work.957446/
    I had see someone here on Hamb with a trailingarm for a Land Rover he intended to use.
    It have a cool I-beam look so that what i used as the lower arm.
    Other then that it is a regular set up with all arms paralell.
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  27. Interesting build, sure like all the pictures, thanks for sharing, looking good!
     
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  28. Anders, your English is better than a lot that have it as their first language.
    At the rate you are building this, you will be driving it before you know it. :cool::D JW
     
  29. AndersF
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    Well it still is a lot easyer to read English then try to write.
    And in this rate we rapidly going to where the build is today.:D

    With the axle hangin in the frame i need some suspension to the rear.
    I hade a Model-A spring i intended to use so i started with to mount springbrackets on the axle.
    I hade been looking for a Model-A crossmember since i started the build but those few that was
    for sale where sold before i contacted the sellers. And to buy one from the states and import seems
    unessesary expensive. So i started to make my own.
    The advantige is that i can make it to fit my frame and not have to adapt something.
    I got some pices of iron that was perfect match to use to the spring.
    The backdraft was that it was 3/8 and not so easy to bend.
    But i could use my cheapo pipebender to do that.
    First i drilled a hole for the spring and then rigged it in the bender.

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    But i got problem that the pice kinked at the top.
    So i hade to put it in the wisegrip to straighten it.
    So after i alter it betwin the pipebender and the wisegrip it starten to shape up.
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    My second problem was that the sides bends not match.
    So when i was pleased with the bend on one side i put in some woodwedges there
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  30. AHotRod
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    Excellent ingenuity Anders, well done.
     
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