What i need to know is how to tell a 260 v8 from a 289 v8 ??? Are there any ways to tell without looking up casting numbers.Please drop me a pm Thanks
And let us not forget, a 221 ALSO had red valve covers and took a five bolt bellhousing. It may be (I do not know) that the 221 and 260 have earlier casting numbers, as this engine was intro'd in 1962 (C2**, in Ford part number lingo), the 289 should have C4** casting numbers, as it was intro'd in 1964. So you may be able to simply look for the first two characters, C4 would definitely be a 289. Hopefully someone has a 221 or 260, and can tell us if they truly have C2** as a casting number. Just FWIW, you cannot overbore a 221 or 260 to 4 inches to make a 289 or 302. Cosmo
I bought a 40 buck junker 302 from a Capri for mockups. It turned out to be a 247 or some odd ball thing. As it was just a junker, I didn't really care... but I sure would have been pissed if it was intended to be my good engine. Gary
Provided nobody's jacked with it by installing '65-later parts, the aforementioned 5-bolt bellhousing is a primary spotting feature. Another one for 221-260-early 289 is the oil filler tube and (if I remember correctly) the dipstick tube in the front cover, plus use of a generator instead of an alternator. The casting number hint certainly is a good one, but I don't know what numbers were used for 260 vs 289 parts. Hopefully someone who has a parts book handy can answer this better (I'm too busy watching the auction on TV and playing the cliche' drinking game).
this motor came out of 62 or 63 ford falcon futura sprint 2 door hard top .The valve covers are crome ,and the crome looks like factory???
The Falcon Sprint had chrome valve covers. Again the 5 bolt bell housing is key. If it is a draft tube engine it should be a 260, but I'm not sure on the year for the draft tubes.
Chrome covers were factory on Sprints. Probably a 260. Not a '62, no Sprints, no hardtops in 1962. But my Standard Catalogue shows all three engines as available, so maybe very late '63 for the 289?? Best to pull a head and measure bore - 289 is 4 inches, 260 = 3.80; 221 = 3.50. Or do what all the Chevy guys do - "Yup, it's a 350". If you are going to build it, you need to know, if you're just gonna run it, who cares?? All the stuff fits, so no issues there. They are all the same externally, only the bore changed. Cosmo
The casting on the 260 block are C30OE-B, C30E-C, C40E-B, C40E-D and C40E-E casting number for the 289 5 bolt block C3AE-N, C4OE-C, C40E-F, C4AE,C4DE, HiPo's- C3OE-B and C40E-B Casting numbers for the 221 block C20E-G and C30E-A The 221, 260 AND 289 all have the same crank. The 221 has a 3.50 inch bore, 260 has 3.80 inch bore and the 289 has a 4.00 bore
Wierd, but sure is nice to know this now. I wonder if they still listed the motor as a 302 in the new car brochure? Gary
The early 221 and 260 both had two freeze plugs and the motor mount bolt spacing was 6 inches. In early 1963 they went to the three freeze plug and a 7 inches spacing for the motor mounts.
A falcon would only have a 260 in 63. I have never seen one with a factory 289. If its the original engine out of a 63 falcon, then it's a 260. Chrome valve covers would make it out of a sprint, same engine with a dress up kit. Doug
The 255 was called a 4.2L V8 during it's not brief enough run of production from 1980-1982. The BOSS was back in 1983 when the 302/5.0L returned and ultimately became the savior of the modern muscle car. The 255 wouldn't even be good enough to be a boat anchor in most Ford guys minds.
So's driving in 2nd gear over 20 miles at 50 mph in a '63 Galaxie 500 HT w/ the original 260-2v and 3-on-the-tree. In September 1980 I had to drive the car from my little home town to 76th & Dodge in Omaha to have Midas redo the pipes they put on the week before. The driver's side exhaust pipe shifted and knocked the clutch rod out of the clutch fork, leaving me with only 2nd gear and no clutch (and being a semi-novice 18-year-old I was not smart enough to power-shift). Going downhill between 90th and 84th & Dodge early in the afternoon on a fall Saturday I finally dropped a valve, punched a hole in the #6 cylinder wall, and thus began the learning process of the differenece between a 260-early 289 and a later 289. What I thought was going to be a simple bolt-in swap for a reman 289 became a nightmare when we finally found out my 5-bolt bellhousing wouldn't fit a 6-bolt block: that led to a chain reaction of replacing the original 3-speed with one from a '67 Mustang, going to a dinky boneyard in Bellevue to get the bellhousing, finding out the timing cover differences, and on top of all this having the Cal-Custom valve covers and triaxial speakers get ripped off while the car sat outside the local mechanic's shop. Kludging the clutch and shift linkage together was an experience in itself. That reminds me, I need to figure out if the '65 289 in my '55 Fairlane Victoria is a 5- or 6-bolt. After 29 years I forgot what it has...
hey friend, it sure is good to see you asking a question about a ford, just kidding, i think i would ask the guys at McTiers, good luck, they did have a 289 in 63 falcons, not 62.
Am quite sure Falcons did not have 289's until '64.........'63 Falcons, if V8, were 260's.......... I worked at a Ford dealer in those days, and I currently have a 63 1/2 Falcon Sprint hardtop. The V8 in '63 was a mid year intro.......Besides, early Mustangs had 260's so it doesn't follow that Falcons would have gotten a 289 before the Mustang. Ray
What about the 64 fairlane's? Does anyone know if they came with both the 260 or 289's.I know I have a 5 bolt just pulled the tranny off of it Friday.My old man saihe built the block too 302 specs.
Man thanks for all the info ,for what i have learned its a 260 .My plans are to rebuild and put im a model a sport coupe on 32 rails.Its just a cool looking engine and it was free . and thats the good part
64 Fairlanes came with both 260 and 289. I believe after 1964 the only production car to come with a 260 was the Sunbeam Tiger, both 65 and 66.
The 1965 mustang was available with a 260. It was the last year for that engine in the mustangs, also generators were replaced with those new-fangled alternators in 1965.
Sorta. The early Mustangs (64½) got the 260. After about Aug. 1964, the 289 was standardised in both Falcon and Mustang lines, and the 260 dropped. Same for the generator, so I do not believe that you could get a generator on a 289 in either Falcon or Mustang. Mercury Comets got the 289 and Cruise-O-Matic in 1964 (with generator), where Falcons could only have 260/Ford-O-Matic (2 speed). A matter of perceived value for Mercury buyers: ie: you really did get more for your buck. Cosmo P.S. I would have bet on the 260, also.
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