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Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by guitarguy, Sep 19, 2018.

  1. dumprat
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    @guitarguy that skeleton is beautiful, makes me think I should build a roadster rather than a C cab.
     
  2. guitarguy
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    Yes it is, I hope I can make something similar for mine. That's how all the cars to 1925 were constructed, that obviously is for a roadster, the other iterations are similar.
     
  3. The37Kid
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    Here is a factory illustration. Bob DSCF0253.JPG
     
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  4. RodStRace
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    Just a goofy thought, but can you do a bunch of paint sticks and bondo to get the basic curves of the inside of the sheetmetal?
    I realize the metal is flimsy, floppy, and 90 years old. You will want to match the patterns reasonably side-to-side, too.
    But just like cutting a few chunks of cardboard to make a pattern rather than trying to make it a single sheet from the start, it should get you pretty close.
    You could even cut them into 1X1 squares and fit them one at a time like a 3D printer - layer by layer.
     
  5. guitarguy
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    Overkill.......

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    s-l1600 (1).jpg s-l1600.jpg I've never seen this style Model A rear motor mount before, but if you want them let me know. Bob
     
  7. RAREBIKE
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    I have the blueprints for the 23-25 Roadster you can borrow if you want.
    Tim in Omaha
     
  8. GuyW
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    Post them here please!
     
  9. guitarguy
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    Thank You. I may take you up on that. I wish I had access to copying those large prints. I am not sure if Leon Parkers wife is going to dig all the stuff up to pass it along for someone else to reprint those. I was very lucky to get the touring plans right before his health issues took his life.


    Did some more work today. The mounts are finished...except I wont drill the mount holes to the frame until I have everything all set near final assembly.

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    Decided to bolt the clutch housing back up and bend some pedals to fit better.

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    So the clutch pedal needed some serious relocation to get full motion. I will have to chop the pedal arm short and reweld the pedal pad back on....the brake pedal is pulled all the way back in this pic for reference.

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    So then I decided to bolt the trans in...why not, haven't gone that far yet. Needed to find out how it all mocks up sooner or later. Also bolted the hand brake lever up. I know this was going to need a little work. But at least I know what I'm up against.

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    I think I am going to have to move the crossmember. Kinda sucks as I welded it in. But that was long before I ever thought I'd be doing all this.

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    It all clears, but I don't believe is be able to pull the trans back far enough for clutch servicing. One step forward, two steps back.

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  10. dumprat
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    @RAREBIKE please post those plans if you can.
     
  11. guitarguy
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    He might not be able to, they are very large blueprint drawings, something in the range of 18" x 36".

    Had I known Leon Parker's health would cut the sales of these plans short, I might have bought more. Such is the case with alot of these older T guys.
     
  12. guitarguy
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    Thanks Bob. I do appreciate the offer very much. As you can see in my one pic above, I completed both mounts today.
     
  13. RAREBIKE
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    18 x 36 and 32 pages. I was going to have some made for the MTFCA guys in a few weeks.
     
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  14. guitarguy
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    Wow. 32 pages. I think the touring plans are only 10 - 12 pages
     
  15. RAREBIKE
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    These are Leon's that he gave to me years ago they have all of the note pages with them that are often missing.
     
  16. The37Kid
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    I think I am going to have to move the crossmember. Kinda sucks as I welded it in. But that was long before I ever thought I'd be doing all this.



    Can you remove the remains of the running board bracket and turn it up side down and weld it back on?


    Bob
     
  17. guitarguy
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    If it just got moved back 4"or so, it would be fine. I'm probably going to have to cut it out (and not be able to reuse it) more than likely. I "think" I have another one I removed from a chassis. I will have to look. I want to have something in there irregardless to keep things kosher with the main rails.
     
  18. cfmvw
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    Reading through this thread, I am amazed that most of this project is almost 100 years old! And to see someone putting it all together is impressive! I'm enjoying this project!
     
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  19. guitarguy
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    My wallet is empty, but these little gems from Ross Pistons I hope will be worth it. Set up for 7.5 to 1 with the Model A crank and rods and Fronty head on the T engine block. Custom made, I have been waiting about 8 weeks for these.

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  20. dumprat
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    Those are gorgeous
     
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  21. guitarguy
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    Being on vacation this week, I feel I killed it pretty good. Torque tube is shortened, now a combination of T and A.

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    Painted the rest of the steering parts for the drag link. Using the T doodlebug as a paint drying rack and the outside sun as my makeshift oven....bake at least 4 hours :D.

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    Steering linkage done!

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    Gratuitous shot of what it will hopefully be, LOL

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  22. dumprat
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    Is that the cowl top you are planning on using?
     
  23. guitarguy
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    No, It is just for mock up, same with the firewall. I have some very nice pieces I will be using on the actual body.
     
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