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200r4 or 700r4

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by 50styleline, Jul 19, 2012.

  1. 50styleline
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    For a 50 styleline thats gonna end up with a 250 in it. I have a chance to buy a 200r4 that has been rebuilt, or should i wait for a 700r4. What are the major differences? Thanks in advance for any input.
     
  2. The 200 is a great transmission. No need for a 700R4 with a I6
     
  3. Put one in our Styline with a ZZ3 and it fit in place of a leaky TH350 without any drive shaft work but installer said was snug. Don't think the 700 would have gone in without some trans tunnel massaging and probably frame x member chopping (it's a convertible).
     
  4. 50styleline
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    Yeah, the guy said it was a short tail. Isn't that the only way they were made?
     

  5. HamD
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    there's only one length of 200-4R. It is, give or take 3/8", the same length as a short tail (6" housing) th350.
    95% (I'm just using a number....) are dual bolt pattern; a few were BOP only.

    there's only one length of 2WD 700-R4

    Yeah you can prove the guts of the 700-R4 are beefier. But my experience has been the 200-4R has been a more reliable shifting trans. And the ratios are a little closer/nicer for most applications.
     
  6. 50styleline
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    Thanks for all the info.
     
  7. brokenspoke
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    The correct type is 200-4r not a 200-r4
     
  8. Jack Luther
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    I've used both and I would suggest the 200-4r.
     
  9. I had a 200-4R behind a blown DeSoto Hemi in my 32 Roadster, and it was a wonderful driving transmission. Not as "bulky" as the 700-R4. Better gear ratios too...
     
  10. You'll be fine with a 2004R and a 6 banger. Unless your later plans are for an 8 cylinder, then I would put that 700R4 in now.

    The 700R4 is a beefier tranny than a 2004R. The 700R4's internal parts can handle more torque & power without extensive modifications, unlike the 2004R.

    Look at this... pictures speak volumes: http://www.webrodder.com/article.php?AID=426&SID=6
     
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  11. brigrat
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    What make, model & years did the 200R4 come in? What to look for?
     
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  13. wingman9
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    Since the gear ratios in these transmissions are so different the decision to use either one should be based on car weight and power, imho. In a light car I prefer the 200 4r, but in a heavy car the 700r4 comes into it's own. The 700, with it's low first gear, is great for getting the car rolling. They can both be built to handle all kinds of obscene power. I know of a 200 4r behind a 550 hp LS motor that seems to be doing just fine.
     
  14. Everything from a Turbo Grand National to a 1/2 ton Chevy van with a 350.
    It's a good little transmission. 1st gear on the 700's is a little deep for my liking.

    They were introduced around 81-82 if memory serves me.
    Make sure you get the 200-4R and not a Metric 200 POS.
     
  15. brigrat
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    "Make sure you get the 200-4R and not a Metric 200 POS."
    How do you tell the two apart?<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->
     
  16. F.Y.I.: 1/2 ton Chevy truck with a 350 - 210 horse

    Buick Grand National (GNX) - 276 horse

    Wouldn't put one of those trannys behind a 350 horse - V8! ;)

    But behind an inliner 6, just fine. :cool:
     
  17. Weasel
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    ^^^ You've obviously never tried one:rolleyes:. Blown intercooled 650hp 383 stroker Willys loves it's 200 4R. Got both - 200 4R hands down - my favorite street driving trans....
     
  18. I won't.

    I've been racing GM overdrives for years and have done tons of research on overdrives in general. Everything from a vacuum modulated 4L60E (yes, NO electronics) to a Ford AOD for a GM.

    A 700R4 can be built a lot cheaper and handle a lot more power than a 2004R could, unless you want to spend 2 grand or more.

    And it really doesn't matter if someone puts a rubber band between their 2000 horse Pro Mod engine and the rear tires, if you're not using the power it may not break.
     
  19. mustang6147
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    the inside of a 200r4 is significantly weaker then the 700r4. To be honest, its shocking.
     
  20. Weasel
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    Real world experience - and I have not babied this trans - tells me when built properly they are fine with 700 hp and the OP wants to put it behind an Inline 6. But as always, results may vary....
     
  21. 50styleline
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    55NAILHEAD That's some good info, and thanks to everyone else also.
     
  22. brigrat the number of pan bolts are different!
     
  23. 200R4 in a G10 seems unlikely, every one I've ever seen has been a 700R4. But vans can be goofy, as evidenced by my one ton with a 4L60E - factory -

    What the 200R4 came in most frequently were the midsize and full size 1980s RWD GM cars - Monte Carlo, Regal, Gran Prix, Caprice, Parisienne, LeSabre, etc. -
     
  24. rd martin
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    if you click on the web rodder info in the 10th post it will tell ya everything you want to know.
     
  25. 1971BB427
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    The 200 metric has "Metric" stamped into the pan.
     
  26. brigrat
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    Thanks! Wish all things were that simple!
     
  27. different number of pan bolts.
     
  28. RAMKAT2
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    Try to find one that came out of a mid 80's Grand National, Monte Carlo SS, or Hurst Olds/442. They are built with a governor that allows higher rpm shift points and are rated for use behind at Turbo V6 &/or a small V8 motor.
     
  29. MT26
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    I too am interested in installing either a 700R4 or 200R4. My HP will be around 400-450. I see many ads for these transmissions and many of the reviews for the builders are less than rosy. Anyone have a tried and true transmission builder who can build a good quality product. I am in Virginia.
     
  30. GNX had the most at 276 horse
     

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