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Projects 1964 Falcon B/FX Build Thread

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by fiveoh108, Nov 29, 2011.

  1. 65COMET
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    Mummert;Mike has a cool old school setup,not really a drag race engine.With better heads,cam,headers,and compression ratio,it should really wake up!!! ROY.
     
  2. Mummert
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    Old school is good. I'm putting a C5AE headed 302 together for a project in the future.
     
  3. 65COMET
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    Mummert;I agree OLD SCHOOL is good,but when you have power goals in mind you need new technology[AND MONEY]!!!!! Mike has a goal and he needs to step up his engines output,302+.020 now,no idea on compression,very mild cam,way old school 351W heads,small tube tri-y headers and individual runner mechanical fuel injection!!! ROY.
     
  4. Mummert
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    Sounds good. We're trying to get the Falcon going by June for the next Y-block shootout. Should be a strong running car. It'll be fun to get together with some other Falcon , Comet guys and do some racing.
     
  5. ec164
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    I have a 8.2 Dart block 4.125 bore Mike 9bones plus the ride......Al
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  6. Hmm Al, interesting proposition . What's the history on it,


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  7. ec164
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    Brand new shp block purchased from guy in need. Can go larger for 363 cubes or final hone to new pistons. Like anything new should have line bore checked and square-decked once you have rotating assembly. Steel caps center 3 are splayed. Its sitting at a machine shop now I have no space......Al
     
  8. 65COMET
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    Mike;just what the FI intake needs,363" 15 to 1,BIG cam,YEE HAW!!! It is only money!!!!!! Scrappy went easy 10.0s on a FI 363" on ALKY!!!! ROY.
     
  9. Got a new gauge cluster! ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1401742489.918803.jpg


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  10. Looking for a stock fiberglass hood for the falcon. Anyone with a used one? Got some changes coming im preparing for!
     
  11. ec164
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    You thinking just a flat hood but in fiberglass?.......Al
     
  12. So I can cut a hole for my injectors. I got a couple changes planned I will let you know about soon!


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  13. 65COMET
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    Mike;call Eric to see where he got his! ROY.
     
  14. Dropped my dad's car off at the body shop today, and what did they have up on the back wall? A brand new race weight fiberglass hood for a 64 Falcon. $150 and I got it


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  15. 65COMET
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    WOW,you need to buy some lotto tickets!!!! ROY.
     
  16. Part of the transformation arrived today! ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1402624787.076928.jpg


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  17. ec164
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    Nice, I like those brackets too!!.....Al
     
  18. 65COMET
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    Mike;how much does it hold? ROY.
     
  19. 3 gallons. Todd has this much for his 427 and he said he has about a gallon left after a pass at Bakersfield , so I should have plenty, I am thinking of going to a test and tune at Fontana on Sunday July 6th, if I can get everything done in time. Is that something you would be interested in?


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  20. 65COMET
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    3 gallons should be plenty,I use about 1 1/2 gallon on a pass.I may go down to help you,I will be leaving for WA. shortly after that!!! ROY
     
  21. Spent the night polishing stainless steel injector stacks with my 29.99 harbor freight polishing wheel. Hilborn wanted $250 and a local company wanted $220. All it cost me was a sore back and 3 hours! Polished on the left, Unpolished on the right ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1402809653.132479.jpg ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1402809664.965266.jpg


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    Looks GOOD!!!!! ROY.
     
  23. Hard to tell in the photo but is that a old Mustang Ralley pack on the column? HRP
     
  24. HotRod, it is a rally pack, it is converted to work with auto meter gauges, I will be putting my oil pressure and water temp in them. With my hybrid pro neck restraint system I can't look down beneath the dash where they are currently mounted.

    Removed the hood and hinges, Installed the taller injector stacks and started fitting the moon tank. I will be selling my surge tank with the Holley float bowl and 6"injector stacks if anyone is interested. ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1402866506.437254.jpg ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1402866522.336904.jpg ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1402866558.105043.jpg


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    KOOL,now it just needs more cam,more compression,better heads,more rear gear and tire and bigger headers!!!!
     
  26. I think with the fuel switch I will be ok for a while, just need to concentrate on driving. That's like saying you car needs bigger heads, you don't want to go faster, so you don't get bigger ones. I think I will get close to my goal with methanol and better shifting. It's time to have fun with it and drive better. If I got all that stuff I would be going faster than I want, I think!


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  27. Polished the paint off the radiator tonight, I like it! ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1402897789.000595.jpg


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  28. ec164
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    Looking very impressive Mike!.....Al
     
  29. Added an engine diaper, as I was told by a long time racer, "it's just good sportsmanship" plus I've see a couple cars loose it deep in the run once a motor lets go and oil gets under the back tires. $168 shipped to your door for a custom fit oil pan cover with two absorbent pads seemed like cheap insurance! Fits great, hope I never have to use it!
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  30. Mummert
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    It looks like there is a fair amount of top end in that engine shortening the stacks. I remember a 1964 HOT ROD magazine article had a really good formula for stacks that took valve events into consideration. The initial Superflow formulas I used did not and they were not as succesful. They look like they're tuned to the 2nd harmonic. The 3rd and 4th Harmonic tune up a shorter . It will definitley play with your jetting. I changed my total runner length (valve to bellmouth) from 20" to 15" and the fuel demand went up quite a bit. It was the first time I ever heard a motor detonate on Ethanol.
     
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