Register now to get rid of these ads!

Projects 1957 Hillman Husky 392 hemi build thread

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by HuskyV8, Feb 28, 2014.

  1. HuskyV8
    Joined: Apr 30, 2010
    Posts: 535

    HuskyV8
    Member

    Must go nice with that V6.
     
  2. HuskyV8
    Joined: Apr 30, 2010
    Posts: 535

    HuskyV8
    Member

    I've thinned it down to 5. I have 2 Minxs and 3 Huskys. One of the Huskys has a 302. The blue one that didn't work is my Halloween car. I put a scary guy in it and make it look like it hit a tree in my front yard. I have a fog machine that makes it look like the radiator is blowing steam out. Also lined the inner fenders with tin foil and a red light makes it look like it's burning. Strobe lights add to the effect. The kids love it.

    One of the cars was too rusty to fix so I cut the front end off and hung it in the garage. That's the last photo. The lights work too.

    Funny thing is I have to keep going back to the wrecking yard where I got rid of one Husky to get parts I need. I didn't have the room to keep it at my house but every time I have to pay $20+ for parts.

    IMG_8494.JPG IMG_8495.JPG IMG_8496.JPG IMG_8497.JPG IMG_8498.JPG IMG_8499.JPG IMG_8506.JPG IMG_8507.JPG IMG_8508.JPG IMG_0175.jpg
     
    Last edited: May 15, 2014
  3. HuskyV8
    Joined: Apr 30, 2010
    Posts: 535

    HuskyV8
    Member

    I searched the HAMB for Jag rear end experts and came up with Curt Hamilton in Van Nuys CA. Everybody had great things to say about him. We talked on the phone several times and he confirmed that 48" was about as narrow as we could go. The Maserati IRS center section was a little wider than a Jag rear since it had 7/8" big vented rotors. This would require that the half shafts be extra narrow. That wouldn't work so I had to use Jag brakes to narrow the center section a little.

    The first two shots are of the Jag IRS I found on Craigslist. The Jag had a 2.88 non posi...that won't work. The rest of the pics are of the Maserati IRS. Note the square lower arms from the Maserati. I ended up going with the Jag axle shafts and lower arms.

    If you look you can see the Jag rear brake pieces are on the top while the Maserati pieces are more accessible on the bottom.

    IMG_3345.jpg IMG_3353.jpg IMG_7780.jpg IMG_7784.jpg IMG_7785.jpg IMG_7776.jpg IMG_7779.jpg
     
    Last edited: May 15, 2014
  4. HuskyV8
    Joined: Apr 30, 2010
    Posts: 535

    HuskyV8
    Member

    I took the Jag and Maserati IRS pieces to Curt Hamilton and told him to make me the best IRS possible to handle the torque of the 392. After a few months he was done. He ended up using the Maserati 3.54 gears in the Jag center section. This made for a narrower center section by also using the thinner Jag brakes. I think we settled on a final width of 48.5"

    I did some research and found the 200S also came in an early 6 3/4"; version. Turns out that the overall outside width of the 7" wheel is 8" but the 6 ¾ wheel overall outside width is 7.5" This bought me a half inch which makes all the difference in the world when trying to narrow one of these Jag rear ends.

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
    Last edited: Sep 8, 2016
  5. HuskyV8
    Joined: Apr 30, 2010
    Posts: 535

    HuskyV8
    Member

    I don't know what kind of shocks I'll need until I get the car assembled and weighed on the four corners. For now we have steel beams where the shocks/springs will go.

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
    Last edited: Mar 3, 2014
  6. HuskyV8
    Joined: Apr 30, 2010
    Posts: 535

    HuskyV8
    Member

    Here's some shots of the rear end getting tacked in for fit. Once again I used Pacific Fabrication in Morgan Hill to do the work.

    IMG_8654.JPG IMG_8655.JPG IMG_8656.JPG IMG_8657.JPG IMG_8658.JPG IMG_8659.JPG IMG_8650.JPG
     
    Last edited: May 15, 2014
  7. HuskyV8
    Joined: Apr 30, 2010
    Posts: 535

    HuskyV8
    Member

    Here's some more shots of where the rear wheels will end up.

    IMG_8650.JPG IMG_8651.JPG IMG_8652.JPG IMG_8653.JPG
     
    Last edited: May 15, 2014
  8. HuskyV8
    Joined: Apr 30, 2010
    Posts: 535

    HuskyV8
    Member

    This is the finished placement of the IRS. Also some shots of the radius rods. The radius rod mounts double as the rear transmission mount. Three bolts on each side hold the transmission cross member in place for easy removal.

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
    Last edited: Mar 3, 2014
  9. HuskyV8
    Joined: Apr 30, 2010
    Posts: 535

    HuskyV8
    Member

    I decided to use a top loader 4 speed. I'm using a David Kee all aluminum set-up that has the truck/Jeep/hot rod mounted shifter. This will allow the shifter to be very close to the stock position. The original Husky shifter was similar to the shifter shown in this photo.

    A Wilcap adapter will bring it up to an original Cobra dual pattern scatter shield.

    [​IMG]
     
    Last edited: Mar 3, 2014
  10. George
    Joined: Jan 1, 2005
    Posts: 7,560

    George
    Member

    Now that is Funny!!!!:):)
     
  11. HuskyV8
    Joined: Apr 30, 2010
    Posts: 535

    HuskyV8
    Member

    With the front and rear IRS in it was time to start figuring out where the motor would go.

    IMG_8697.JPG IMG_8698.JPG IMG_8699.JPG IMG_8700.JPG IMG_8701.JPG IMG_8702.JPG IMG_8703.JPG IMG_8704.JPG IMG_8705.JPG IMG_8706.JPG IMG_8707.JPG IMG_8708.JPG IMG_8709.JPG
     
    Last edited: May 15, 2014
  12. HuskyV8
    Joined: Apr 30, 2010
    Posts: 535

    HuskyV8
    Member

    Some shots of the motor mounts.

    IMG_8722.JPG IMG_8723.JPG IMG_8724.JPG IMG_8725.JPG
     
    Last edited: May 15, 2014
  13. George
    Joined: Jan 1, 2005
    Posts: 7,560

    George
    Member

    Of course this might have been the time for a Dodge Hemi.....(in the panel truck?)
    a hemi buddy & I was at Moultrie & a guy asked him if he could drop a Hemi into a (?) & I replied well, if you get the hemi high enough....:eek::cool::)
     
  14. HuskyV8
    Joined: Apr 30, 2010
    Posts: 535

    HuskyV8
    Member

    Here's some random shots of fitting the engine. I had to get pictures from every angle so I could study and try to avoid gotchas.

    IMG_9088.JPG IMG_9089.JPG IMG_9090.JPG IMG_9091.JPG IMG_9108.JPG IMG_9117.JPG IMG_9119.JPG IMG_9122.JPG IMG_9128.JPG IMG_9129.JPG IMG_9130.JPG IMG_9131.JPG IMG_9133.JPG IMG_9134.JPG
     
    Last edited: May 15, 2014
  15. HuskyV8
    Joined: Apr 30, 2010
    Posts: 535

    HuskyV8
    Member

    Need all the space around the motor I can get so I used the original Milodon oil filter that came with the motor.

    IMG_9150.JPG IMG_9151.JPG IMG_9152.JPG
     
    Last edited: May 15, 2014
  16. HuskyV8
    Joined: Apr 30, 2010
    Posts: 535

    HuskyV8
    Member

    The firewall beginning to take shape. We're going to try and keep the stock location for the steering wheel, seats, and pedals! There is plenty of room for the distributor and changing spark plugs. There is hardly any room for the gas pedal so I'm going to need to get creative there.

    IMG_9160.JPG IMG_9161.JPG IMG_9162.JPG IMG_9163.JPG IMG_9164.JPG IMG_9165.JPG IMG_9166.JPG IMG_9167.JPG IMG_9168.JPG IMG_9169.JPG IMG_9170.JPG IMG_9171.JPG IMG_9172.JPG IMG_9173.JPG
     
    Last edited: May 15, 2014
  17. looking good...unique and ambitious, nice to see...great project!
     
  18. GregCon
    Joined: Jun 18, 2012
    Posts: 689

    GregCon
    Member
    from Houston

    Well, you certainly don't give up easy...

    My parents had a '59 Minx. Bought it new in Buffalo, NY.
     
  19. HuskyV8
    Joined: Apr 30, 2010
    Posts: 535

    HuskyV8
    Member

    More firewall progress.....I'm going to have to wear small shoes.

    IMG_9174.JPG IMG_9175.JPG IMG_9176.JPG IMG_9177.JPG IMG_9178.JPG IMG_9179.JPG IMG_9300.JPG IMG_9301.JPG IMG_9302.JPG IMG_9303.JPG IMG_9304.JPG IMG_9305.JPG IMG_9306.JPG IMG_9307.JPG IMG_9308.JPG
     
    Last edited: May 15, 2014
  20. will you have bolt in panels or holes with plugs to access bolts etc? make it a lot easier to work on
     
  21. HuskyV8
    Joined: Apr 30, 2010
    Posts: 535

    HuskyV8
    Member

    A few more firewall shots.....

    IMG_9309.JPG IMG_9310.JPG IMG_9311.JPG IMG_9312.JPG IMG_9313.JPG IMG_9314.JPG IMG_9315.JPG IMG_9316.JPG IMG_9317.JPG IMG_9318.JPG IMG_9319.JPG IMG_9320.JPG IMG_9321.JPG IMG_9322.JPG IMG_9323.JPG
     
    Last edited: May 15, 2014
  22. HuskyV8
    Joined: Apr 30, 2010
    Posts: 535

    HuskyV8
    Member

    I'm going to have to figure out what to do with the pedal set-up. The car originally had a mechanical clutch linkage but I don't have room for that. I'll be IMG_9828.jpg IMG_9829.jpg IMG_9830.jpg IMG_9831.jpg IMG_9832.jpg IMG_9833.jpg IMG_9834.jpg
     
    Last edited: May 15, 2014
  23. HuskyV8
    Joined: Apr 30, 2010
    Posts: 535

    HuskyV8
    Member

    I'd already taken the brown Husky down to the wrecking yard. I kept remembering that it had pieces I could use....even though I thought I'd stripped everything I needed. While thinking about a clutch master it occurred to me that the brown Husky had a some funky clutch master mounted under the floor. I made a trip back to the wrecking yard and got all the parts related to the clutch master for $20. I don't think I'll use the pieces but I can at least see what someone did to add a hydraulic master.

    These are shots taken at the wrecking yard. These show it can be done.

    IMG_9854.jpg IMG_9855.jpg IMG_9856.jpg IMG_9857.jpg IMG_9858.jpg IMG_9859.jpg IMG_9860.jpg
     
    Last edited: May 15, 2014
  24. HuskyV8
    Joined: Apr 30, 2010
    Posts: 535

    HuskyV8
    Member

    With the firewall and transmission tunnel roughed in it was time to put the plastic 392 back in to check the fit.

    The white you see is a styrofoam mock up of a radiator used to make a real radiator for my 302 Husky. It looks like it would almost work in this car too.

    In these pictures I've gone to a Chevy water pump. This is about two inches shorter than the Chrysler original water pump. It's starting to look like the radiator will be able to remain close to it's original location.

    IMG_9851.jpg IMG_9852.jpg IMG_9853.jpg IMG_9876.jpg IMG_9877.jpg IMG_9878.jpg IMG_9879.jpg IMG_9851.jpg IMG_9852.jpg IMG_9853.jpg IMG_9876.jpg IMG_9877.jpg IMG_9878.jpg IMG_9879.jpg
     
    Last edited: May 15, 2014
  25. HuskyV8
    Joined: Apr 30, 2010
    Posts: 535

    HuskyV8
    Member

    Time to start thinking about the clutch set-up. I bought everything from Wilcap in an effort to not run in to compatibility issues. Here's a shot of the pilot bearing adapter and the flywheel. It turns out that the nose of the input shaft would bottom out in to the pilot bearing when I tried bolting up the transmission. Larry from Wilcap told me I would need to drill the crank deeper. My motor was already built so that wasn't going to happen. Something would have to be done to fix that. Time to get creative again.

    I also test fit the starter. It seemed to fit fine.

    IMG_9812.jpg IMG_9813.jpg IMG_9887.jpg IMG_9888.jpg IMG_9889.jpg IMG_9892.jpg IMG_9880.jpg IMG_9881.jpg IMG_9882.jpg IMG_9883.jpg IMG_9886.jpg IMG_9884.jpg IMG_9885.jpg
     
    Last edited: May 15, 2014
  26. HuskyV8
    Joined: Apr 30, 2010
    Posts: 535

    HuskyV8
    Member

    the HAMB found me a solution for my pilot bearing problem. I talked to Gary of Quality Engineered Components and he suggested I mount the pilot bearing in the flywheel. I didn't buy anything from Gary but was willing to give me lots of advice.

    Here's what the pilot bearing adapter looks like. I got the aluminum piece from Wilcap. It pressed right in. I had an Oillite bronze bushing turned down so it pressed right in. The last two photos show the input shaft isn't too deep in the pilot bushing as it was before....and that the splines are in a good position.

    IMG_9893.jpg IMG_9894.jpg IMG_9895.jpg IMG_9896.jpg IMG_9897.jpg IMG_9814.jpg IMG_9898.jpg IMG_9899.jpg
     
    Last edited: May 15, 2014
  27. HuskyV8
    Joined: Apr 30, 2010
    Posts: 535

    HuskyV8
    Member

    Wilcap told me I'd need a slip on style hydraulic throw out bearing but after measuring it I found it wouldn't work. I returned it and got a bolt on style. I had a friend (Tom Hall) way more experienced than me dial it all in. Needed some offset pins to get the bellhousing aligned but it all looks good now. Bleeding the clutch should be a one handed operation since the lines are mounted solid. We had to mount the fittings as close as possible to the bellhousing to avoid hitting the transmission tunnel sheet metal. I think it will work fine.

    Bell hole taped.jpg TO Bearing installed.jpg Preliminary Assy.jpg Overall Assy.jpg Final Assembly.jpg Detail Fitting Box.jpg Clutch fittings, bottom front.JPG Clutch fittings side view.JPG
     
    Last edited: May 15, 2014
  28. HuskyV8
    Joined: Apr 30, 2010
    Posts: 535

    HuskyV8
    Member

    Here it is all bolted together. Like my little wooden box that it's sitting on. Built that from a Hot Heads diagram. Worked great transporting the whole set-up.

    Pictures are a little cloudy from the fingerprints of my 5 year old Nolan on the camera lens. You can just see him and the dog Leo in the second picture looking for some action. The dog as usual is ready with his frisbee.

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
    Last edited: Mar 31, 2014
  29. HuskyV8
    Joined: Apr 30, 2010
    Posts: 535

    HuskyV8
    Member

    Whenever doubt creeps in a little Husky inspiration is never hard to find. The greencar has a nailhead. The orange car with the hood up is a 59 Husky with a 392. The blue car is from the UK and has a 350 in it....I think. it has also been lengthened several inches.

    The one that says Rootes Service is my 59 Husky that is has a 340HP 302 and a C4. This one was made with many parts from a Sunbeam Tiger including the front and rear suspension, steering rack and column, rear end, transmission tunnel, and more.

    Does anybody recognize the Husky cartoon artwork? I found it on the HAMB but I can't remember who did it. I'd like to get him to do a drawing of my car.
    Copy (1) of hillman nailhead.jpg 5Id5L75G53Gd3M53o5c930ac380209014175d.jpg blue husky 3.jpg Husky Orange.jpg Mighty_Hillman_Husky_1.jpg Mighty_Hillman_husky_2.jpg orange 11-04-2004-SCTNC 002.jpg orange .jpg orange 59HillmanHuskyDelivery-Bott.jpg orange 59HillmanHuskyDelivery-Top.jpg Pro-Street_Hillman_Husky_small.jpg Pro-Street_Hillman_Husky2.jpg Husky.jpg blue husky 3617509053_b1f7dd9df3_b.jpg
     
    Last edited: May 15, 2014
  30. Hot Rods Ta Hell
    Joined: Apr 20, 2008
    Posts: 4,499

    Hot Rods Ta Hell
    Member

    What a terrific job you're doing on this build I love Hillman's.

    It'll be a hell of a ride. Once you get it on the street, just for some fun, you should drop a set of steelies/poverty caps on it. What a sleeper that would make with that Hemi hiding under the hood.
     

Share This Page

Register now to get rid of these ads!

Archive

Copyright © 1995-2021 The Jalopy Journal: Steal our stuff, we'll kick your teeth in. Terms of Service. Privacy Policy.

Atomic Industry
Forum software by XenForo™ ©2010-2014 XenForo Ltd.