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Projects 1952 Allard J2

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by banjeaux bob, Oct 31, 2011.

  1. banjeaux bob
    Joined: Aug 31, 2008
    Posts: 5,818

    banjeaux bob
    from alaska

    Here are some images of a 1952 Allard J2.It's being restored by Marc Hendrix in Belgium.These are his images.

    It has a 392 Chrysler Hemi,Ford transmission,Ford front axle,and Ford rear axle.

    The job is not finnished yet.The pictures may not be in order or labeled.As they picture is worth a thousand words! This saves me from many typing errors too!

    BanjeauX Bob
  2. von birch
    Joined: Oct 17, 2008
    Posts: 205

    von birch

    very cool. big american hot rod motors in very elegant european looking car. never knew the ford front axle were split into an independent front suspension on allards. you learn somethin new every day!
  3. And the rear suspension! Ford center section with, was it swing axles? Gotta go back and look, but inboard drums. Rather exotic rear and rather truck like front. Wild, wonder how they handled, and what the weight is.

    Went back and looked, and it looks like a full independent in the rear.
  4. kurtis
    Joined: Mar 13, 2009
    Posts: 1,990

    from Australia

    Bob, what's the history of this car?
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  5. Ole don
    Joined: Dec 16, 2005
    Posts: 2,915

    Ole don

    What is amazing is the wheels survived the hemi!
  6. kurtis
    Joined: Mar 13, 2009
    Posts: 1,990

    from Australia

    Bob, i asked only because it reminded me of Bill Pollack's J2, seen here at Pebble Beach in 1953, although this was powered by Cadillac.

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  7. Mr48chev
    Joined: Dec 28, 2007
    Posts: 26,209


    Quite the car. One would have to think that most of those were pretty well documented as to race history and ownership records much like the Ferrari's of the same period.
  8. von birch
    Joined: Oct 17, 2008
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    von birch

    didnt even notice, thats amazing...never heard of anything like that before...
  9. propwash
    Joined: Jul 25, 2005
    Posts: 3,858

    from Las Vegas

    DeDion rear end, about the only IRS at that time that would handle the big Yankee V8s. All J2 and J2Xs used the IFS split beam axles from Ford. These things are a handful to drive, and you have to appreciate the guys that hurtled through the countryside at breakneck speeds. These were MEN's cars, and for the most part, they still are (if you can find one).

  10. cruzr
    Joined: Jan 19, 2006
    Posts: 3,125


    Limeworks just finished a Allard, only Cad powered
  11. That'd have to be fun to drive.
    Talk about steer by throttle!
  12. Allard Register
    Joined: Jan 13, 2010
    Posts: 31

    Allard Register
    from Fresyes

    Bob, do you know what the chassis number is?
  13. i did a later allard in no ca after flood
    it had a 392 chrystler buick dynaflo trans dedeon rear with ford diferental center section
  14. never got to drive on the road
    the sar was striped for painting just moved it around
  15. the rear end had jag inbord brakes
    the axel shaft was ford outer berring ford and a 205 inner made careyer
    i think the front suspention was MGA had that big crosmember
    just like the one on my friends chevway
  16. davo461
    Joined: May 13, 2007
    Posts: 345


    I seem to recall that at least some of them had a split Ford I beam front suspension. I have seen some pics showing front wheels at funny angles.
  17. The37Kid
    Joined: Apr 30, 2004
    Posts: 26,397


    Thanks Bob! First time I've ever seen an Allard all apart. There are two ARDUN powered Allards within an hours drive of my house. Years ago there was one here in town just parked in a driveway, I'll always regret not stoping to ask about it, long gone now. Bob
  18. Limey Steve
    Joined: Apr 4, 2005
    Posts: 1,523

    Limey Steve
    Alliance Vendor
    from Whittier

    The holes he filled were the same as in ours, the tail light holes, really crude but hidden when the tail light is installed. Brilliant cars our car drives so nice it's incredible, yet to be driven in anger though !!!!!
    Good luck with the resto , it will be a ton of fun. The one we did was a J2X with the front wishbones going forward to push the engine forward for more leg room .
    Last edited: Nov 15, 2011
  19. scootermcrad
    Joined: Sep 20, 2005
    Posts: 12,304


    Such amazing cars! I love the use of the early ford center section while converted to IRS with inboard drum brakes! Insane!

    Steve, Did the Allard you guys just finished have IRS similar to this as well or something else?? I don't recall last time I was there...
  20. darrylkmc
    Joined: Mar 16, 2010
    Posts: 4



    There used to be an Allard here in Fairbanks back in the early 80's. I saw it one time, it had a Cadillac engine in it.

    Darryl in Fairbanks
  21. Brad54
    Joined: Apr 15, 2004
    Posts: 6,008

    from Atl Ga

    I love the heim joint/rod end covers.
    Any details on those?

  22. Limey Steve
    Joined: Apr 4, 2005
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    Limey Steve
    Alliance Vendor
    from Whittier

    Hey Scooter, the J2X we did has the same rear end but the front is different , ours the wishbones go forward to give more foot room. Rear is De Dion Stylee ,with Coil Springs, very cool.
  23. 40FordGuy
    Joined: Mar 24, 2008
    Posts: 2,908


    Very cool cars,..... Didn't most of them have Cadillac power ? or did the buyer get to choose ?


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