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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by jebbesen, Oct 5, 2015.

  1. dumprat
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    I don't have any pics but you need to twist the wire tight between the bolt heads. It's best to do it so it keeps the bolts under tension if you understand what I mean. Then the wire should be trimmed and the twisted end turned under "pig tail style." It keeps it out of harms way, and makes it less likely to make you bleed.

    You might find something on YouTube
     
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  2. jebbesen
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    I'll study up for the future. It's too late for this axle but I trust the red loctite. The bolts and nuts had all been parts washed so the loctite should hold no problem. I put blue loctite on the axle housing bolts. It's weird, I don't think my axle had ever been apart and it was done circular like that. Slightly heavier wire and only 4 together with the ends turned back but circular and with solid wire. I bet the way you're talking about works better though. My torque tube was also done in a circle. The parts axle I have had lock nuts and no safety wire. I think that was a postwar diff. The one I'm using is a '38.
     
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  3. jebbesen
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    Today I ordered two more drums for the front as well. :)
     
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  5. Fabber McGee
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    I think you fellows are referring to safety wiring bolt heads. These are nuts and that wire is fine. It's doing the same job as 8 individual cotter pins. Doing it like a bolt head would still keep the nuts from loosening, but the bolts could rotate and let the wire get slack between them. Not a problem if the slack wire doesn't contact anything that rotates, big problems if it does. Not likely, but possible.
     
  6. jebbesen
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    Picked up another set of round back spindles that have the arms in stock location. I'm going to try and set this car up with undropped arms and save my dropped ones for a future build. IMG_20200503_131047.jpg IMG_20200503_131040.jpg
     
  7. jebbesen
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    Positioned the studs in the bearing housing portion of the safety hub. I used red loctite on the threads in the alum. The studs are made from grade 8 all thread I bought from McMaster Carr. The rear ones are longer because they also pass thru the shock mounts.
    IMG_20200504_203406.jpg IMG_20200504_203413.jpg IMG_20200504_203416.jpg
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    Here's the axle slid in but not seated into the housing.
    IMG_20200504_203822.jpg The nuts on the backing plate end will be the original Ford nuts
    received_2539602566278214.jpeg the ones on the bearing retainer side will be these new all metal lock nuts also sourced from McMaster
    received_270237347484473.jpeg
     
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  8. jebbesen
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  9. jebbesen
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    I put a slight interference fit on the aluminum bearing housings. To make it easier so slide them in they're going to spend the night in my 1950 IH freezer. They don't make appliances like that anymore. Other than switching the cord to a grounded one about 12 yrs ago it is running like a champ. IMG_20200506_211305.jpg IMG_20200506_211318.jpg IMG_20200506_211327.jpg IMG_20200506_211343.jpg Not to get too far off topic, but I have a thing for old appliances. IMG_20200506_211826.jpg My grandma bought this fridge new in '50 or '51. I traded her a new stainless one for it several years ago. About every couple weeks my wife mentions that it would sure be nice to have a bigger one .... My daughter like it though- nice thick sheet metal for her magnets to stick to!
     
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  10. Ned Ludd
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    It seems IH made some quality stuff, bordering on the grossly overbuilt! I read up a bit in the course of this Photoshop exercise.
    International Travelall Coupe.jpg
     
  11. jebbesen
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    Axle shafts are in. Freezing the axles worked great. Wiped a light coat of MolyKote on the seal area of the shafts and slid them in. IMG_20200507_204616~2.jpg IMG_20200507_204628.jpg Had to slip a drum on for fun. IMG_20200507_204839.jpg
     
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  12. jebbesen
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    Got the rear spring apart and the bushings changed. Now I have to clean up the leaves and put it back together. IMG_20200508_175109.jpg IMG_20200508_191526.jpg Im going to try using these rivet style pins in the clamps. I bought them from Snyder's Model A parts and made this backing anvil to put behind the finished head while I peen the other end over with the air chisel. IMG_20200508_150753.jpg
     
  13. jebbesen
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    Revisited the Lincoln brakes. The Buick 2" shoes had a .375 step in the side of them and the 1941 Lincoln plates required a .312 step. I milled a 1/16" off the sides of the shoes so they sat correctly on the support pads of the backing plate. IMG_20200513_203456.jpg IMG_20200515_145049.jpg Then I reassembled them. IMG_20200515_211414~2.jpg
    If anyone cares, this is the list of brake hardware I'm using. Screenshot_20200515-173521.png
     
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  14. jebbesen
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    Spring is back together. IMG_20200520_103056.jpg IMG_20200520_113703.jpg IMG_20200524_094534.jpg Didnt get as nice a hot rivet head as Henry did but still looks nicer than a bolt IMHO.
    IMG_20200520_131117.jpg 15903316614361925607122934281228.jpg 15903317114147755209544586060139.jpg this last picture shows why I needed to run bolts rather than studs in the lower shock mount. It's a close fit!
     
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  15. jebbesen
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    Cut the outer edge in a lathe a little for clearance with the original Lincoln brake splash rings. I would not have needed to go that far back but I decided to make it match the other ribs. This cut gives me 0.06 clearance between the drum and backing plate. I'm going to post these up as a separate thread so it's searchable also. Made a mandrel to mount the drums on in the lathe. IMG_20200523_100909.jpg IMG_20200523_103226.jpg IMG_20200523_103232.jpg IMG_20200523_103245.jpg IMG_20200523_103317.jpg IMG_20200523_103337.jpg IMG_20200523_145733.jpg IMG_20200523_145738.jpg
     
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  16. jebbesen
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    Decided I needed longer wheel studs. The F1/50 Merc studs are just long enough with the stock tin center drums and steel wheels. These drums are thicker and I may want to try different wheels at some point. The studs I'll be using are Dorman 610-479 studs. Here they are installed in the rear axle. IMG_20200529_131126.jpg IMG_20200529_125849.jpg
     
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  17. jebbesen
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    Loading up to go shoot some primer. IMG_20200530_102527.jpg IMG_20200530_105317.jpg IMG_20200530_105323.jpg
     
  18. jebbesen
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    Definitely not the best primer job in the world but it'll keep it from rusting while I figure out my torque tube length and until I can paint it. IMG_20200530_130034.jpg IMG_20200530_154231.jpg IMG_20200530_154255.jpg IMG_20200530_154236.jpg IMG_20200530_154249.jpg
     
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  20. jebbesen
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    That doesn't happen too often! It is a perfect day. High 60's and not a cloud in sight. Supposed to get super humid later this week so I wanted to get stuff primed.
     
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  21. jebbesen
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    Put the wheels back on with the old drums so I can roll it around. Once I figure out the length h of the new torque tube I'll get that welded up and paint everything assembled. IMG_20200530_155934.jpg IMG_20200530_155927.jpg IMG_20200530_160042.jpg IMG_20200530_160625.jpg
     
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  22. cfmvw
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    Love those old appliances! I have a 1955 GE Spacemaker oven that needs some work but I love the pushbutton burner controls and the chrome trim. Also have a 1938 cast iron drainboard sink complete with the original faucet that I rebuilt... Union Brass model, they still make the parts for these here in America!
     
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  23. jebbesen
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    Here are some pictures of the latest work.
    IMG_20200616_141324.jpg IMG_20200619_164007.jpg IMG_20200619_164012.jpg IMG_20200619_164018.jpg IMG_20200622_160906.jpg IMG_20200622_160924.jpg IMG_20200622_160943.jpg IMG_20200623_143954.jpg IMG_20200623_143957.jpg IMG_20200623_144916.jpg IMG_20200623_145401.jpg IMG_20200623_153058.jpg IMG_20200623_162817.jpg
     
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  24. gnichols
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    Love your build!
     
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  25. Peanut 1959
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    Fantastic treatment of that mounting tab! Just great!
     
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  26. AHotRod
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    You are doing it right and I love it.
    I saw the pictures that you got of the car back in '55
    Question: So they had never made body panels for the cars?
    What was the intension for the build, no race only? and where?

    I hope you are still planning on making it street legal, it will be so awesome to drive.
    Keep the faith,
    Glenn
     
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  27. jebbesen
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    Thanks for the encouragement guys!

    @AHotRod the cars never got bodies. According to the younger guy who helped build them and owned the second one with the Hudson Terraplane engine, they both made wood carvings of their intended bodies and bought fiberglass cloth but never got bodies built.

    Yes I plan to make the car street legal. They were driven on the road back in the 50's. The Hudson one was licensed with the Hudson title but mine was just run without a license. The area was pretty rural then.

    I'd love to buy the Hudson one as well but so far the current owner won't part with it even though he hasn't done anything with it for several years. I actually stopped by where it sits and took some pictures of it this evening. If I could buy it eventually I think it would be amazing to have both of the cars.

    IMG_20200627_174846.jpg IMG_20200627_174552.jpg IMG_20200627_174537.jpg IMG_20200627_174838.jpg
     
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  28. Fabber McGee
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    Looks like he has plenty of projects to keep him busy. Stay after him.
     
  29. jebbesen
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    Out for a Sunday morning cruise in the old Taylor Tot. IMG_20200816_083528.jpg
     
  30. jebbesen
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    I got the Ford flange welded on the back end of the shortened Chevy torque tube. After welding I set the tube back up in the lathe steady rest and faced the flange so it is flat and normal to the driveshaft centerline.
    IMG_20200816_175728.jpg IMG_20200816_175734.jpg IMG_20200816_175740.jpg IMG_20200816_175746.jpg
     
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