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Technical 1950 Chevy and a box of parts

Discussion in 'Traditional Customs' started by BoxOfParts, Feb 4, 2024.

  1. BoxOfParts
    Joined: Jan 27, 2024
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    BoxOfParts

    Ok, so its really lots of boxes... I was gifted this car with a bunch of parts all ready to be put back together. Here's a bit of a run down:
    1. Car has been painted.
    2. Has new upholstery, including carpet in the trunk.
    3. A 235 motor already rebuilt.

    Now I am putting it all together and I can sure use some advice.

    Today I swapped out the bell housing and put the 216 on it so it matches my 3-speed transmission.

    Does the bell housing bolt get torqued? Do I put thread locker on them ?
    Any feedback would be greatly appreciated!
     

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  2. I have never torqued them, but I make them TIGHT
     
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  3. saltflats
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  4. leon bee
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    "Chevy Tight"
     
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  5. BoxOfParts
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    Thank you saltflats✌️
     
  6. saltflats
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    If your not that mechanically inclined you may want to look into buying a factory shop manual for your model car.
     
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  8. squirrel
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    Bellhousing bolts don't generally need locktite, but the flywheel bolts might get a dab.

    Looks like fun! There are a lot of little differences between the "late" engines like that, and the original. So show us all the parts you're installing, and keep asking questions!

    for instance...the water pump for a 54 or older car is quite different from that for a 55 and later. But there are ways to deal with it.

    The starter and flywheel have to both be pre- or post- 55. They have different teeth, the 12v starter won't work on a 6v flywheel. (this is really important to you, very soon!)

    just little things like that.
     
  9. BoxOfParts
    Joined: Jan 27, 2024
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    BoxOfParts

    Thanks all who replied.I know i have along road ahead of me but this car has a lof of setimental value.
    Ed
     
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  10. Rusty Heaps
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    CB425933-751F-44ED-BB3F-0FA96C7B38C6.jpeg I’m following this thread, let’s see more pics
     
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  11. BoxOfParts
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    BoxOfParts

    IMG_2136.jpg Today I torqued the bell housing bolts IMG_2136.jpg IMG_2137.jpg IMG_2138.jpg IMG_2139.jpg IMG_2140.jpg to 50lbs, was going to install the flywheel and clutch assembly but i went a head and cleaned all the threads on the bolts. I did verify that I have a 6 volt flywheel and starter. Hopefully I can install the clutch tomorrow
     
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  12. squirrel
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    Do you have pressure plate bolts? they have a plain shank below the head, to help center the PP.

    pp.jpg
     
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  13. BoxOfParts
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    These are the ones that I took off the pressure plate
     

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  14. squirrel
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    Ok...I would get the right ones, but that's just me.
     
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  15. Don't forget that the 6 volt starter will happily spin hooked up to 12 volts. Just don't try cranking for real long bursts.
     
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  16. BoxOfParts
    Joined: Jan 27, 2024
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    BoxOfParts

    Got new pp bolts and installed the flywheel .
    Torqued the flywheel bolts to 62lbs with locktite and in a cross battern,
    Started at 20,40,60 then 62lbs. Putting on the clutch was a bear but finally got it .
    I only have a 1/2 inch drive torque wrench and starts at 20 ft lbs and it felt like either the bolt was going to snap or the bolt would strip. I am going to a friends house to borrow his 3/8 dr torque wrench so i can torque them down without worries.
    I did find what seems to be the original bolts
    IMG_2143.jpg IMG_2143.jpg IMG_2144.jpg IMG_2145.jpg IMG_2146.jpg
    Good night and thank you all for guidance
    Ed
     
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  17. squirrel
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    I would use the original bolts you found, if all 6 are there.

    Should be able to get 35 ft lbs on them with no problem, if your torque wrench is accurate.

    You used an alignment tool to center the friction disc, I hope.
     
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  18. BoxOfParts
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    BoxOfParts

    I only found 4 of the orginal bolts, so i used the new ones. I got two more coffee cans of bolts and washers in the trunk will through them again .
    I did use the alignment tool for the disc.
    If i cant find the orginal bolts, i will attach the ball pivot ball on the bell housing and attach the clutch fork and throw out bearing.

    Now this were I need advice:
    The water pump ! So manny options.
    Do I get the pump plate adapter ? I see a couple of write ups but I notice its for chevy trucks not sedans.?
    I need to get a raditor for it , is there one already made for this swap that moves it foward?
    It already has a 12 volt alternator that was already on the car so maybe a electric pusher fan ?

    Thank again
    Ed
    IMG_2151.jpg IMG_2152.jpg
     
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  19. BoxOfParts
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    Cleaned the pivot ball installed the fork and throw out bearing . Used some grease on the pivot and fork.
    I found a water pump in a tub, will see if its for this engine or the 216
    Ed
     

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  20. BoxOfParts
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    BoxOfParts

    My water pump adapter came in and so did my water pump but I ordered the wrong pump. Going to get the one with the 3/8 pulley .
    IMG_2198.jpg IMG_2199.jpg
     
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  21. You should have enough room for engine driven fan. Lots of aluminum radiator’s around. Brass are expensive. I put aluminum on a 54 with V8. Fit great. The new owner has had no problems.. Six blade should cool it fine.
     
  22. BoxOfParts
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    When you mean a 6 blade fan , one from another gm car or a aftermarket like flex lite ?
    Thanks,
    Ed
     
  23. BoxOfParts
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    BoxOfParts

    Need advice again
    I drilled my two holes for my water pump adapter and I hit the water jacket on the passenger
    I can put some luquid thread sealant on the bolt and hope no leaks
    IMG_2214.jpg

    My next queston is do i need to use the 216 ballencer on the 235 ? Or did i get the wrong pump again ? The water pump pulley and crank pulley dont align
    IMG_2230.jpg

    The 216 is 600 miles away
    I have been messing with this pump for two weeks , maybe cut my losses put the 235 pump without the fan, and put electric ?
     
  24. Kaptain Kustom
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    I'm pretty sure the 216 balancer pulley has wide groove, so it probably won't fit your current narrow groove pump pulley (though maybe a wide belt works with narrow groove). It should fit with the wide groove pump however.

    Best bet with your 53-54 235 style (old style but narrow groove) pump would be a balancer from the same kind of engine.

    I didn't know they wouldn't align, but later crank pulley might also have bigger circumference, so it turns old style pump and fan faster than they are designed for. Don't know if the difference would matter.
     
  25. snoc653
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    This is my 51. Although it has the wide belt, taken from the same angle it appears not to align either. But it doesn’t throw the belt. Are you sure it doesn’t fit?

    IMG_4577.jpeg
     
  26. BoxOfParts
    Joined: Jan 27, 2024
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    BoxOfParts

    Going to get a belt today and give a try,
    Thanks for the inputs
    Ed
     
  27. BoxOfParts
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    BoxOfParts

    Well i was told that the flywheel was one for 6 volt , ran the casting number 3705410 and its for the 235 12volt not the 216 6volt . It does have 169 teeth.
    The 235 starter is 600 miles away. Was just going to buy one at the local parts store and the cheapest one i found was $240 ! So for 50 bucks more i bought plane tickets to go pick it up with other stuff i need. Distributor,bolts and big washers for intake/exhuast manifold pcv tube etc.. life is still good
     
  28. saltflats
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    I seem to remember that you have to press the water pump pully in or out to make it work.
     
  29. BoxOfParts
    Joined: Jan 27, 2024
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    BoxOfParts

    Time to paint some parts of the engine, it is light blue but I
    dont know the code or name ?
    IMG_2132.jpg
     
  30. BoxOfParts
    Joined: Jan 27, 2024
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    BoxOfParts

    Got my starter,fan,dist,exhaust/intake bolts and clamps. I should have my engine all ready to put it in the next couple of weeks
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