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History 1938 Volkswagen find and restoration

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Pro Stock John, Jun 29, 2011.

  1. Bad Daddy
    Joined: Nov 13, 2010
    Posts: 829

    Bad Daddy

    You do mean a 1938. . . ;)
  2. Yeah, better fix that title before it gets booted off of here :D
  3. DARN!!!! I'll PM Ryan.

  4. Ryan
    Joined: Jan 2, 1995
    Posts: 19,940

    Staff Member

    Leaving this one open for a while... It's off topic, but interesting.
  5. Thanks Ryan - it is pretty cool.
  6. cookiemonster131
    Joined: Mar 3, 2008
    Posts: 265


    i have read that front to back, AMAZING work those guys do and as you can imagine this is not there first go around on a very early VW.
  7. Pharouh
    Joined: Sep 18, 2008
    Posts: 437


    Man, good luck finding parts for that....:)
  8. Tman
    Joined: Mar 2, 2001
    Posts: 35,164


    Very interesting thread. That would be like finding the Hilborn Lakester to us hot rod types.
  9. revkev6
    Joined: Jun 13, 2006
    Posts: 3,351

    from ma

    I agree Tman. it's like finding one of edsel's early speedsters! Amazing. the modifications done to the car to keep it running ruined and saved the car at the same time.
  10. well it just goes to show, to my untrained eye it looks like a 60s-70's bug sitting in a field....
  11. F&J
    Joined: Apr 5, 2007
    Posts: 13,222


    Thanks Ryan for keeping it open for now..

    There must have been some sort of technical sharing between Mr Ford and Mr Porsche but I never read of it. Look at the wide 5 wheels, the shape of the rear quarter windows, door window shape,the beltline details, etc., compared to the same age Ford car.
  12. LSGUN
    Joined: May 26, 2007
    Posts: 1,337

    from TX

    It's pretty amazing what is out there, I have a '66 Beetle myself. That is a good read.
  13. LSGUN
    Joined: May 26, 2007
    Posts: 1,337

    from TX

    I remember reading something about how Ferdinand Porsche visited Henry Ford's factory before the KDF went into mass production.
  14. this is going to take all afternoon...thanks...
  15. alchemy
    Joined: Sep 27, 2002
    Posts: 17,453


    But they're restoring it. Nobody here wants to lower it and put in a big engine? You guys are slipping. :)
  16. Tman
    Joined: Mar 2, 2001
    Posts: 35,164


    Nads Swastika pedal would fit that thing just fine;)
  17. need louvers ?
    Joined: Nov 20, 2008
    Posts: 12,906

    need louvers ?

    Thanks Ryan! Too cool! And ya alchemy, I'd lower it and do a big motor...
  18. -DouG-
    Joined: Mar 5, 2009
    Posts: 151


    very cool... is there a cliff notes version or an all pics version of the story?
  19. 1950ChevySuburban
    Joined: Dec 20, 2006
    Posts: 6,188

    Member Emeritus
    from Tucson AZ

    That IS cool! Always loved old Beetles.
  20. msalamanca
    Joined: May 25, 2011
    Posts: 526


    That is amazing, I have always been a huge fan of pre 67 VWs.
  21. Old-Soul
    Joined: Jun 16, 2007
    Posts: 3,620


    Pretty cool, thanks for sharing.
  22. Lunatic
    Joined: Sep 28, 2004
    Posts: 1,199

    from Carson,Ca.

    HMMM. interesting
  23. I was looking at this thing last weekend at Bad Camberg. It´s an incredible resurrection job. It was stood next to a recreation of the Porsche Typ 64, Berlin to Rome racer, which is pretty much what Batman would have been driving back then.

  24. pimpin paint
    Joined: May 31, 2005
    Posts: 4,937

    pimpin paint
    from so cal


    There was some " technical sharing" but not intended:rolleyes:

    In 1936 & '37 Porsche visited several U.S. auto plants including Ford Motor Company & Briggs Body Company. @ that date in time, Briggs had under development several designs for Ford's new Lincoln Zephyr. Designer John Tjaarda (father of designer Tom Tjaarda) had prepared designs for both front as well as rear engine platforms, as Ford had been toying with a rear engine design for the new Lincoln/Zephyr. Tjaarda had been working on several design concepts since the 20's that he called ''Sterkenbergs '' These designs included unit body construction, teardrop shapes, rear engines & independent suspension.

    After Porsche returned to Germany, the development of what would become "The Beetle" started.

    " There is in manufacturing a creative joy that only poets are supposed to know. Someday I'd like to show a poet how it feels to design and build a locomotive . " - Walter P. Chrysler -
  25. metalshapes
    Joined: Nov 18, 2002
    Posts: 10,719

    Tech Editor

    Its truely amazing.

    An early handbuilt prototype that was in such a terrible state there wasn't much left.

    Very accurately restored.

    These guys didnt take the easy way out.

    It deserves respect.

    No matter if you happen to be into VW's or not...
  26. SmoKerch
    Joined: May 23, 2011
    Posts: 123


    Airbags on all four corners.
  27. jimi'shemi291
    Joined: Jan 21, 2009
    Posts: 9,499


    Ferdinand ALSO visited with Paul Lewis in 1937 and observed his
    rear-engined "Aeromobile" at length. Hitler was pushing Porsche
    hard for a "people's car," and it seems Porsche "studied" others in
    order to accelerate the development process.

  28. OoltewahSpeedShop
    Joined: Oct 18, 2007
    Posts: 3,103


    Mind reader....

    I love old VW's and most of the time agree that they don't belong here. This one might be different though. Especially if the history can REALLY be traced.

    Looks like the real deal, guess Ryan is going to give it a chance. Thats cool.
  29. That's cool finding a piece of history like that.

    Didn't think I'd ever be posting this photo on the HAMB.

    I bought this non-running 1949 Deluxe convert in 1981 for $200
    Didn't know it was a rare car back then.
    I put a used motor in it and gave it a rough buff.
    Made a killing and sold it for $900 a month later.

    Check out the barrel bolt for a door lock.

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