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Projects 1938 Plymouth Coupe Build

Discussion in 'Traditional Customs' started by Griffith38ply, Feb 19, 2023.

  1. Griffith38ply
    Joined: Feb 19, 2023
    Posts: 11

    Griffith38ply

    Hi everyone i would like to share my adventures on my 38 Plymouth coupe build. Now first off i will let everyone know I was born to love Chevy and never once worked on anything other. But people change. I picked this up in august of 2022. Car was to be made as a Gasser but the gentleman found a Willy's instead and sold me this gem. Mind you we had just moved back from Utah to Iowa so I was slow to start on the project then. Winter finally came we are settled in and I have began the process of the build . 20220814_152653.jpg 20220814_152702.jpg 20220814_152705.jpg 20220814_152711.jpg 20220814_152715.jpg 20220814_152722.jpg 20220814_152728.jpg 20220814_152736.jpg 20220814_152742.jpg 20220814_152747.jpg 20220814_152752.jpg 20220814_152759.jpg 20220814_152808.jpg 20220814_152810.jpg 20220814_152823.jpg 20220814_152827.jpg 20220814_152829.jpg

    i picked up a few books to help along the way. Heres the ones I found. If you know any other i should have that would be great. 20220908_172006.jpg 20220908_172022.jpg 20220909_232925.jpg 20220909_232953.jpg 20220909_233006.jpg

    time to start the build I guess. I have worked on cars before been around a wrench alot so this will be fun. First things first lets get down to the nitty gritty and see what we really have. i am really glad the fender were all not that bad solid no real bad holes or rust on them they will clean up great and with a little lov they should turn out fine. There is slight damage to the top of the radiator cover but should not be to hard to mend. I am looking forward to learning more metal work but i stare at the bottom curve of the fenders and the bottom between the fenders and I wonder can i do it haha. time will tell.
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    So once i got the body down the barebones i started to set my focus on what i knew might be the worst part of the buidl which is the Frame and suspension. if you look a the images below you can see that someone chopped out the mid cross section of the original frame then Boxed in the sides in some areas. Added what apears to be a Mustang II front end. It was added what looks to be around the firwall area of the frame. Put in flat plate across the frame near the mid section of the car and mid process of adding a 4 link in the rear. Hell alot of Stuff was done Not bad. Well not really. Clos einspection of the Front end swap. the weld are really bad. Looks very messy. the 4 link in the rear also is not complete. So what to do , new frame? use the exsisting frame? 20220814_174602.jpg 20220814_174557.jpg
    Well i found a great man in Wisconsin who jsut happen to be selling a complete straight 37 frame. i research for a few days and from what i been told it should be a match or as close to as it can be.
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  2. 1971BB427
    Joined: Mar 6, 2010
    Posts: 9,372

    1971BB427
    Member
    from Oregon

    That '37 frame without modifications is a great start. It will make your build much easier than trying to fix a poorly welded original frame.
    So is your plan to make this a hotrod, gasser, or what? How you proceed will determine what you need to do with this new frame.
    I built an earlier '35 Plymouth coupe for a neighbor, and the X frame and driveline tunnel created a strong frame, but some issues for future maintenance. Because of the tunnel I ground the rivets off the bottom of the tunnel cover and drilled the holes for 5/16" bolts to allow the cover to be removed if he ever needed to remove his 4 speed for repairs. Otherwise it would require the engine/trans to be pulled to service it as the tunnel stops the trans from moving rearward before it can be dropped.
    Since he wanted an open fender coupe I cut the frame ends off and welded '29 Ford frame repair ends on it.
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  3. Griffith38ply
    Joined: Feb 19, 2023
    Posts: 11

    Griffith38ply

    So now that I have a fresh frame to work off of. time to find a power plant. i was going to go the easy route and SBC this bad boy but part of me wanted to keep this in the mopar family still. I spent a good part of a month finding motors. I started in the 440 searched and searched found a few lost a few found some more. but the price kept getting higher for what are motorhome engines. Then I stubbled on to the lower end Hemi 331 354. I am by no means a Hemi guy and i reserched for a few weeks shopped around and what I hope to be a gem showed up on facebook market. it was a 1953 331 Long block Hemi with the fluid drive still sttached. Not the most wanted of all hemis for sure but hey I am not trying to build a racer just a driver. Now the image on facebook was not the best but I figure if i can get the engine for a good price at least. if anything I can sell all the parts of it or even trade the engine out for something else at the swap coming up in a month. Here is the facebook image below. I was kinda taking a huge gamble as the seller didnt know the number on the block he couldn't find it also says its not turning over. guy wanted 600 for a complete engine. I shot for 300 range we came to a settled 350 if i pick up that day, So I am off in the truck . Screenshot_20230210_194041_Facebook.jpg

    I drive across Iowa to Waterloo area nervous as hell cause I am picking up what looks to be heavly rusted engine like its been in the weather since 53. Wife might think I am nuts if this is a bad investment. get out of the truck and look at the engine and well damn his picture did not do it justice at all. 20230211_173041.jpg 20230211_185403.jpg 20230218_215926.jpg 20230211_191255.jpg 20230218_230417.jpg 20230218_222948.jpg 20230218_230423.jpg
     

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  4. Sludge city !hope the block is not cracked!
     
  5. Nice project! Here is a little inspiration. Dad and I built this 1937 Dodge with a Plymouth front end, and a 392 Hemi. You look to have a solid starting point. We started with way less. 8G6A5231.jpg KIMG0078 (2018-12-08T14_55_22.000).jpg 1937 dodge delivered 2.JPG
     
  6. Just a little advise on the 331 you have pictured. That is known as the long bellhousing block. Adapting a modern transmission to that engine can ba challenging. The heads are alo the smallest ports and valves on any of the chrysler Hemis. If your looking to make power later heads are a must.
     
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  7. 1952henry
    Joined: Jan 8, 2006
    Posts: 1,482

    1952henry
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    Nice start. I would love to find Plymouth hood ornament like that to add to collection. Hope that hemi turns out ok. Sludge is like cosmoline, helps to preserve!
     
  8. Griffith38ply
    Joined: Feb 19, 2023
    Posts: 11

    Griffith38ply

    I know where another hood ornamate is. there is a gentleman his place is called Bobe's Antique in Davenport Iowa he is a relly old man but has lots of items and very hard to find items.
     
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  9. 1952henry
    Joined: Jan 8, 2006
    Posts: 1,482

    1952henry
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    The ornaments I have I picked off derelicts, out in pastures, over creek banks, etc. never lucked into one of those.
     
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  10. Griffith38ply
    Joined: Feb 19, 2023
    Posts: 11

    Griffith38ply

    Yeah i know about the housing issue there is a the wilcap adapters that fix that to certain transmissions. And I am not going crazy houses yet on the engine or anything like that jsut a cruiser at first.
     
  11. gene-koning
    Joined: Oct 28, 2016
    Posts: 4,908

    gene-koning
    Member

    So, what are your plans? Going with the tube axle and parallel leaf springs along with the 331 Hemi?
    I think the 35-38 Plymouth business coupe bodies are among the best Mopar has done. I've had a couple different ones in my possession during my past, but never got to build one for one reason or another.
     
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  12. Looks to me like you’ve been had dad. Yikes!
     

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