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Discussion in 'Traditional Customs' started by my47buicksuper, Feb 13, 2019.

  1. my47buicksuper
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    So I have to take 3" out of frame should I a try and just cut it off the front tip and move all the body mounts back 3 " or cut frame and weld back together?

    If I cut frame is there any input on how to keep it strong after the fact I trust my welding but extra reinforcement couldn't hurt !
    I've seen guys cut a zig zag they say it's stronger then a line.

    Any input
    I'm a bit away from this point but I like to do my homework
     
  2. 1-SHOT
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    IMG_9693.JPG Have you thought about front X member off 73 and later Chevy pickup.
    The crossmember unbolt and they are 5 on 5 bolt pattern disc brakes and you could use the whole brake assembly master cylinder and proportional valve.
    You will have to check the width to see if it will work. I have been following the build from down under. 39 Cad 60/S have been my all time favorite car. I can't remember how much room the x member takes up under the car and how much room for the transmission will be left if you slide the vowel mounts back and shorten the front. A shortened frame is not that hard to do if properly welded and reinforced.
    Think twice before you cut. Hope this have been helpful . Frank
     
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  3. my47buicksuper
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    I'll look into it what type of susp do they us ? I'm wanting to keep coils up front to make air ride easy install!
     
  4. 1-SHOT
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    There is a lot of aftermarket parts for those front ends, brakes, rotors, air ride, dropped spindles etc.
     
  5. my47buicksuper
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    10-4 thanks I'll check it out
     
  6. my47buicksuper
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    Hey guys long time no post ! So I put the caddy on the back burner awhile back to deal with life and trying to finish the easier of the two projects my 72 Rallye 340 4 speed charger . Well long story short I got charger blasted and found a ton of metal work so now it's definitely not the easy one!
    It's still in main garage area but I'm getting ready to swap the caddy back in !
    I have been grabbing stuff for it here and there .
    So to get this ball rolling again I'll tell you guys I decided to go with the 5 speed instead of the 700r4 ,so I bought a 83 z28 Camaro that had a 5 speed setup in it also grabbed rear out of it .
     
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  7. my47buicksuper
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    Also grabbed up a surp setup for my chevy 350 with ac stuff so will be putting ac in the caddy to dang hit here in FL.
     
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  9. Moriarity
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    yes, subframe swaps are off topic here....
     
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  11. 1-SHOT
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    I used a early Corvette front clip on a 40 Buick and it slid in the Buick rails like it was made for it . 67-late 80’s measure the rails with and compare.
     
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    I'm still amazed by the creativity of many Hamb members. I'm subscribed.
     
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  13. Moriarity
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    talk of subframe swaps will get this thread locked
     
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  14. my47buicksuper
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    Oh wow guess I've been gone to long ! Well I will be starting back up on this project very soon should be entertaining enough
     
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  15. CadMad
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    Reread your posts and I guess you mean keeping the same wheelbase? All the subframe talk has confused me. .... So you mean widening the catwalk? Or leaning the A pillars to pickup the shorter roof? Yeah I did all that on my 39. I sectioned and extended the trunk and leaned back A pillars on mine. Took 3 goes to get the chop right.
     
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  16. my47buicksuper
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    Wheel base is staying the same .
     
  17. patsurf
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    hope you get a chance to meet "moon" i think it is-in england,doing crazy stuff too-wonderful,both of you!
     
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  18. my47buicksuper
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    My post and pictures disappeared anyone know why? I didn't mention anything illegal!!!!
     
  19. 40StudeDude
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    IF it was gone, it's back now...I just read the whole thing......pix and all...

    R-
     
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  20. air ride
     
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  21. my47buicksuper
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    Air ride is illegal too!!!
     
  22. Moriarity
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    I sent you a pm this morning
     
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  23. Roger O'Dell
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    Air suspension stock not accessory on my 1957 Cadillac eldorado Brougham
     
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  24. CadMad
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    Yep I remember finding your Brougham in Needles California, flat on its haunches. Got pics somewhere.
    I also put my, since sold 59 Biarritz , back on factory air ride. Drove like a magic carpet. I think the airride issue is the laying frame stupidity that just makes a stunning Zephyr look like a dead beetle. Functional acceptable ride height airride should be allowed. Just not this 13 inch drop shit. I might put front bags on my 39 Packard cos the coils are shot. Leafs up back.
    GM buses were running airbags early 40s.
     
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  25. anthony myrick
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    123294EF-FA0C-4C28-8F52-1EA2EBD8B060.jpeg
    hydraulic cylinders in front
    And bags(bladders)/hydraulics in the rear.
    1958 adjustable custom suspension
    Sits very low(perfect)
    One of the first bagged cars I worked on was a 58 Buick. It was born with em.
     
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  26. Moriarity
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    Air ride is not off topic per se. late model ifs swaps are. With that said we don’t really want a bunch of how to air ride threads but we won’t delete because a car has it.
     
  27. john W.
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    I love Caddies.
    I think its going to be awesome.
    My vote is a blower on the 305. Give her some pep.
     
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