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Hot Rods 1937 Chevrolet Master

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Pappa Wolf, Jan 5, 2013.

  1. Pappa Wolf
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    Pappa Wolf
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    And more pics

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    And typical, running out on a sunday!

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    Sandblasting in stead

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    WD40 works

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  2. Pappa Wolf
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    Pappa Wolf
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    AND MORE PICS!!!! I can get a lot done, when the wife doesent bother me! hehehe

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    Didn't like this, so build a new one in stead

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    Better, and then some primer!

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    Build a new cross member for the tank

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    Plasma cutter rules, but my hole saw didn't! smaller hole saw and a bolt with a nut, perfect fit!

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    Nice this!

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    A lot of sandblasting and sanding later!

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    Zinkprimer!! gotta love it!

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    The originale frame width was gold, made the rest of the work a lot easier

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    10 mm hole per 2 cm, (thats a lot of holes!)

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  3. Very nice work and a lot of attention to detail. HRP
     
  4. Pappa Wolf
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    Pappa Wolf
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    To be sure the frame wouldn't twist, I used my wirewinch

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    After many days with sanding, blasting, and cleaning rust the frame was almost done on the bottom side!

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    The nice cross member I made, will have to go, due to the fact, that the shock absorbers needs a new mounting place!

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    I could have made my own trailing arms, but why bother!

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    First attempt!

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    X-frame had to be revised as well!

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    Love tape, easier and cheaper to change, than fully welded steel!

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    Didn't quite like the X-frame, glad it's only tape!

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    Time for more changes!

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    Love my plasma cutter, have I said that?? So does my neighbors on sundays! hehehe

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  5. Pappa Wolf
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    Pappa Wolf
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    Thank you,
     
  6. Pappa Wolf
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    Pappa Wolf
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    It's not often, that I swear and curse. But this time there came a lot of bad words!!
    I didn't like the angle on the trailing arms, nor the contact points on the frame. Saw a few potential problem later on, where metal fatigue would likely appear!
    So I decided to try and move the original brackets, so that I would get the desired angle!

    That was no success!!!

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    So more dumpster hunting!!

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    One was cut like this!

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    The other, like this!!

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    the simplest way for the correct distance

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    Well filled welding seam!!

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  7. Pappa Wolf
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    Pappa Wolf
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    A lot of adjusting, was done in order to do this correct!

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    Tack welding is a must, in case you need to move a bracket!! (FU'ed on that one before!)

    The upper arms needed something to hook on to!!

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    Everything mounted at ride height!!

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  8. Pappa Wolf
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    Pappa Wolf
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    Not enough room, needs more!!

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    All brackets fully welded

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    Emptied the garage, cleaned the floor, placed the frame back in, and started again

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    My youngest son is glad to help in the garage!!

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    And test fitting of every part!

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    There's almost room for an engine here!!!

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  9. PAPPA WOLF, just found your project and am amazed! Great job.
    My Dad has a '37 Master like yours but just a little better shape. He had to replace the grill and bumper (damn tree and bad brakes) Parts here are scarce cause he wants to keep it original.
    Good luck with yours and i'll keep watching.
     
  10. Pappa Wolf
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    Good lord, it's a lot of work to adjust a rear suspension, but it's a lot of fun!

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    The easiest way to mount the top bolts on the shock absorber crossmember, were to weld them on! hehehe!

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    Even the mock up gastank fitted with out ay problems!!

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    more welding is needed here!

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    Found some U-plate, and an angle grinder and sledge did the rest!!

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  11. Pappa Wolf
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    Pappa Wolf
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    Original parts are very rare, so good luck to your dad.
    But that is why I build on a wreck. So I don't cut up an original car!
    And yes, this one was a wreck. From 92 til today, the car had 5 different owners, and every single one of them gave in, due to the amount of rust it had. I was the only one crazy enough to actually start working on it! hehehe
     
  12. Pappa Wolf
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    Pappa Wolf
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    Some weight on the frame helps, when testing the coilsprings!!!!

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    my little helper in action

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    Frame reinforcement.

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    Think I'll make a center piece, that can be removed, when needed!

    I was going to build it in 5mm plate, but as a friend of mine told me. "Why build in 5 mm plate, and ad a lot of extra wieght to the car, when you can build it in 2mm plate, and make it stronger and lighter!" he were of course right, so I did!
     
  13. Pappa Wolf
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    Pappa Wolf
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    All this work you se, has been done since may, and what you se now is from the last week!

    Have worked my way to the front, and test fitted the tranny and engine

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    The frame is perfectly horizontal.

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    But not the engine.

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    Sorry about the blurryness in some of the pictures, but balancing on one fot, in a bad angle does that to some of the pictures!! hehehe

    But the explanation on the engine and tranny being off, was easy. the transmission cross member was in the way of the transmission!

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    It's hanging on one side, so either making a few new holes, or a new cross member!!

    Will proberbly be the latter since I have very little clearance on the drive shaft!! hehehe

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    Some gussets in place and welded!

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  14. Pappa Wolf
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    Decided on making a new transmission cross member!

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    And a few scrap parts later it was taking form.

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    Found a piece of steel that fit, and welded them together!.

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    TEST FITTING is necessary in all aspects of building a car!

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    Not quite done yet, but testing the fitment.

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    A work in progress.
     
  15. Pappa Wolf
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    Pappa Wolf
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    And a bit more cutting.

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    And even more cutting.

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    Sledge and welding and they ended up like this!!!

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    Not fully welded, so that the rust inhibitor can get in there!!

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    Placing the exhaust as high as possible will help with later upgrades (airride!)

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    The 80mm pipe goes through here!

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    All ready cut on this side !!

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    This little stupid piece took me more than 6 hours!!
     
  16. Pappa Wolf
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    Now we are getting to what I did yesterday!!

    Spend 7 hours on doing this

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    My decision on building a new tranny cross member wasn't as dumb as I thought!!

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    Had good help from the wife flipping the frame (and she doesn't even like cars!)!

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  17. dos zetas
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    Thanks for all the pictures- it is good that you are saving this respectable old sedan from the scrapper...
     
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  18. Keep it up, you are making good progress.
     
  19. Pappa Wolf
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    Thank you both. A week has gone, since my last update here, and a lot of work has been done on the frame. But it doesn't look like much, when you look at the frame.

    "The devil is in the details!" A vise man once said. ( He must have been a carguy! hehehe)

    Exhaust in 1.5"

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    Cut in an angle.

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    Cut a piece in 2"

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    And cut in half.

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    It goes there, after some work.

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    And the other there.

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    Drill and minigrinder did the job.

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    Same here.

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    And through.

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    A little welding.

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    on both sides.

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    A lot of work, but it doesn't show.

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    And it looks like this after a week!

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    I could have updatet the thread during the week, but that would just have filled the thread with a lot og nothing, and I know you love pictures! hehehe.

    And let me explain. the tubes through the frame are for brake lines and fuel lines so they don't get under the frame or over. better to keep them safe. hehehe
     
  20. Pappa Wolf
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    Wendsday I shorted the driveshaft with 4in, never done that before, so I'll find out later, if I did it wrong! hehehe

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    Perfect with full compression of the rear suspension.

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    A friend was nice enough to let me know, that I Fu...d up. should have made the transmission crossmember removable.

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    So I did this to fix that.

    First removed the empty tranny, and mount

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    Then I removed the center of the crossmember

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    Had a piece slightly bigger than the crossmember.

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    Cut both with an angle at the end.

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    Fits nice here.

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    Welded them in place

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    And 4 13mm holes later.

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    This is what I did yesterday, lets see what the weekend brings. hehehe.
     
  21. chevy54man
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    Really nice work! Great attention to detail!
     
  22. Pappa Wolf
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    Cool to get an early weekend. got a few hours in on the rod yesterday.

    wanted to get the safety loop done today.

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    Nice to have one of these.

    Guess what.

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    The big loop.

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    The anvil is one of the best tools I have.

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    First test fitting

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    And another piece of steel! hehehe

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    A little folding and hammering.

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    Needed more beating.

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    Anchor points.

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    And more testing.

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    Anchor points for the other loop.

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    Pilot holes will save your drill bits for a lot of wear!

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    M10 nut and bolt. (metric in Norway!)

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    Remember to grind of the galvanization, before you weld, the fumes are very toxic!!

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    Easiest way to prevent problems in the future.

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    More fitting.

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    Oops, tilted the camera! (the camera in my phone corrects itself, the camera doesn't. hehehe)

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    More testing.

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    Picked up new bolt for the transmission crossmember, M12

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    The rear bolted in place.

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    Might need a bit more clearance.

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    Let's see what today brings.
     
  23. Pappa Wolf
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    Been a while since I last updated this thread, but here goes.

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    flipped the frame with good help from my daughter and son in law.

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    Took the rear axle out, and left it, until I were done with the front suspension

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    Took a closer look at the handbrake.

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    After tinkering with the handbrake, and the putting it in storage, I desided that my welder needed a new innerlining. The feeder had startet to go slugish.

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    Lock the thread, thats what the holes are for

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    Loosen the feeder.

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    remove the three skrews.

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    Pulle the wire from the hose..

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    4 screws in the gun is all

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    The thin black hose need to be changed

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    Stretch all the hose.

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    and pry out the endpiece carefully

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    A bit harder in the other end

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    the new hose, bought at the local store for 15$

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    Pull out the old one, and make sure, that they are of the same length.

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    fit the new hose.

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    there it is.

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    Just squeese it in there.

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    lots of hose in the other end.

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    bolt the lid back on.
     
  24. Pappa Wolf
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    use a sharp knife

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    cleaning the feederwheel.

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    not easy to see, but rather dirty

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    back in place

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    bolt the gun back together again

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    Not everything goes according to plan, so I had to dismantle the gun again.

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    turn out the feederhose weren't quite in place, so the thread would hit the edge of the head, and not go any further

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    Woops, A bit crooked

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    I think it needs cleaning.

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    the horn on my anvil is perfect for that

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    Used a LOT of welderspray

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    needed changing

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    Almost done

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    Had to test.

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    A small tip here, all welders a basically build the same way, so when cutting the thread, make sure that your cutter is sharp, otherwise it will cut into the material of the feederhose, and you will get bad wire feeding.

    After that, I wanted to take a look at the front suspension.

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  25. Pappa Wolf
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    Well, you saw the pictures of the front suspension, and normally, I can fix anything, including that. But that would have been far more time consuming, than anything else I ever do on the car, and I would never really trust it.
    So after a bit of bellyaching and complaning to my friends, a few options showed up. I got offered an MII for 600$ and a complete Opel commodore suspension just like the one I had, for free. only catch was that it was a 1000 miles away. But I do have a lot of friends in this country, and I always help out, when they need it, and now a few of them helped me. they pooled together and had it brought down for free. Gotta love them for that.
    The rod environment i Norway is fantastic.
    and as it turned out, it had all the parts that were missing from the first one.

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    Dual piston caliper, nice.

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    need to check the thickness of the discs, but these are pretty thick..

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    A few bushings needs changing.

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    the only welding job, that I have found til now!

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    surface rust is all!

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  26. Pappa Wolf
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    Tested the suspension on the frame

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    not much clearance

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    But this will fit nicely

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    There's still a few hours of cleaning here, but thats just cozy

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    Al balljoints are in good condition, so I made a little experiment

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    After a bit of cleaning, it looked better

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    using a 5.5mm drill bit, should do the trick since the threads are 6mm

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    these grease fittings are from my local "biltema"

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    A lot of grease on the drill bit, is a good thing. I dont like metal shavings inside my balljoints.

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    just clean the drill bit often, and use a lot of grease.

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    Don't think my drill bit liked that treatment, since it broke..

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    But the hole got nearly done.

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    After a quick trip to Biltema, a couple of new drill bits found their new home in my toolbox.

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    removed the suspension, and started cleaning off the dirt and paint.

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    Flipped the frame again, and mounted all the suspension in the rear

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    Dang, someone else played with the camera today.

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    But it's coming together, just a bit more slowly, than I want to.

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  27. Pappa Wolf
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    Pappa Wolf
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    Wanted to testfit the engine.

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    Found the block mounts on the shelves, and bolted them to the block

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    After a bit of testing, I decided that this was the best solution

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    A lot of adjustment with the angle grinder.

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  28. Pappa Wolf
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    Pappa Wolf
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    I really didn't like the first attempt on making motor mounts, so I scrapped them.

    New was fabricated with KISS in mind. (keep it stupid simple!)

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    The pipe got welded on with a lot of heat.

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    Tacked in place until i'm sure!!

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    Next generation rodder.

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    Good penetration, smelled like hot zink for a long while after.

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    This one got rewelded after. Didn't like what i saw.

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    Allright, out with engine and tranny, so I can fit better.

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    They are almost done.

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    Big M12 8.8 bolts with 2 mm square disc helps to lock the front suspension in place

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    The nuts are of course nylock's

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    Hard to explain, but need to make sure that the suspension does not move while driving

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    only had one, so I made a copy.

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    The rest of the pipe for the motor mounts, fits inside, so, I'll weld these to the suspension, and the holster to the frame, and they should fit like a glove.

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  29. Pappa Wolf
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    Pappa Wolf
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    Just so much easier to raise the frame, and lower it down onto the suspension

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  30. Pappa Wolf
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    Pappa Wolf
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    This was a milestone, she was on her own wheels for the first time since may.
    These pictures were taken on oct, 28 2014

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    I had a beer that evening.
     

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