The Jalopy Journal
Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by 401rot, Jan 4, 2018.
Congrats. Go man, go!
Yep, the right guy got this car ! Just ausome, I'll go back to being jealous now...
Here is an update, it has been determined that it was flathead powered by Allan Fielding, the seller on the '64 Bill of sale! He said he went 112mph at Conneticuit Dragway with a Hilborn injected Flathead on Nitro, ford toploader and banjo quick change..these pics show the new built flathead with all original vintage speed equipment on it,
going back in, with a '39 toploader, the other pic shows just how bad the Hemi is with the heads removed..
Isn't that last set of pics on a '32 frame? Did that get changed too at some point?
This just in! This is possibly the same car! Here is what I now know via phone call with Allan Fielding, the seller on the original '64 bill of sale. He traded his 51 olds to another racer at Conneticuit dragway for a '32 Ford coupe early in 1964, he swapped the frame for a '34 frame, recessed the firewall, so he could put a Hemi/ Cad/LaSalle, with a Ford banjo quick change, he also painted the body flat black and sectioned the grill. He said he had traction problems and the Hemi started smoking, so he changed it out for Hilborn injected Flathead and Ford toploader (leaving the quick change)and went 112 mph on Nitro with that combination!
Allan said that this kid kept on coming by his shop begging him to sell it to him, he finally did, selling it without any drive train to Arthur Gobielle (actually to Arthur's mother) because he was not old enough to drive ( this is also shown on the June 10th 1964 bill of sale) .The Flathead was put in a '50 Ford coupe and taken to Briar Motorsports Park (now New Hampshire Motor Speedway) and raced in a spectator race, which he won!
Arthur would then install the big 392 Hemi, B&M Hydrostick (which I have all of the original paperwork for) and Olds rear, Arthur would also spend $100 to have a set of hairpins, front spring, tie rod, drag link, Pittman arm, front axle, and valve covers all chromed! He also painted it blue, as shown in the '68 photos. Arthur never really finished it, only driving it fewer than 10 miles, before putting it in storage, where it would remain for 50 years!
Then these vintage pics turned up showing a very similar '32 5w, raced by the New Breed Drag Team! However there is some differences, first it is in a '32 frame with a SBC for power, but as Allan Fielding said, he changed the frame, the firewall appears to be flat with no hood reveal, but Allan recessed the firewall and in doing so, possibly burned out the body filler used to fill the void. Now for the similaritys...the lower body reveals have been smoothed over with body filler, there is a notch in the rear wheel well that is exactly the same, the roof is now filled, in one pic of the New Breed car, it was also filled, the cowl vent is filled, and here is the big one..... under the blue paint from Arthur Gobielle, is the flat black from Allan Fielding and under that..red paint on everything but the doors, which would explain why the car now has door handles..and did not when it was red, it needed handles to be a street car, and changing the doors would have been way easier...Also, there was a second master cylinder, mounted in the same exact position as the ones in one of the New Breed photos, as are the coil and voltage regulator, I have been in contact with members of the New Breed car club, and they too, believe that at least the body is the same car and have veeified that the timeline also works out!
Yes...I just posted all if the info that I have collected on my car..
Holy Crap ! - how lucky to get this history & pictures !
all I can say is WOW....what history.
Keep us updated ! Lots of potential there. Nice find !
Amazing stuff, you guys are better than Josh Gates (Expedition, Unknown)! Why?! Because at the end of it all you find the Gold. Eli, please keep posting on here, most of us old guys don't do Instagram.
Nice find. keep the updates coming.
The greatest thing about that car is that it will be correctly built and DRIVEN, not stuck away for another 50 years. I had the pleasure of seeing it a couple of weeks ago at Eli's open house/ winter party. I'm pretty sure I heard "3WLarry" chuckling up in the barn rafters. You are missed, podna.
What a tale. I'm astounded cars like these are really still out there. Nice save. Gary
Cool she stays local, great history lesson for these parts.
New Breed Racing team was active even after your car. One I posted in the corvette thread
I’m amazed that this car was passed over by a handful of folks that saw it before Eli.... including me, Just bad timing on my part.
Today was a good day! I got a phone call from Frank "Butch" Russo. He was the second New Breed Drag Team member to own the car. He bought it from fellow club member, Fran Russi for $450, without a motor or transmission. Fran was a body shop owner and had bought it as a previously built hot rod (I am trying to track that down now) and changed it into a club drag car. Butch told me that the firewall was not cut off, it was molded in with body filler, he also asked if it still had MG seats and SW instruments all the way across the dash. It does! He says this is his old car, it has undergone many changes since then, but he is positive it is the same car! He also told me that he remembers someone in Rhode Island ending up with the car....
Does anyone out there know this car, I have an idea it is the earlier version of my car, only a bunch, but I am wondering if this is the car that Fran Russo bought to turn into the New Breed club drag car? There is many similarities and the timeline and race track is also right...
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