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Projects 1930 roadster-esque pick up

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by sloppy jalopies, Oct 10, 2019.

  1. I really enjoy your creative build methods both here in your thread as well as those you share on others’ threads. Thanks for sharing so many tips & tricks.
     
  2. I agree with @brEad completely!
     
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  3. Here's mine stretched..... 69465165_374823783203554_716567992862769152_n.jpg
     
  4. sloppy jalopies
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    cool, lets you run a "padded" seat...
     
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  5. sloppy jalopies
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    When the sportster goes to a buddy's for suspension installation, [winter] I will slide over onto the roadster - esque cab...
    still got the cowl I snipped the cabriolet header from, chopped 3"... rp cowl 1.JPG
    pair of 29.25" long tudor / truck doors ;
    DSCN4811.JPG buddy hammerforms these door tops [arm rests] for me ; DSCN4364.JPG
    DSCN1762.JPG .
    the cab back I cut off the sportster's subfloor ;
    DSCN4728.JPG thinking another '48-'50 truck dash ;
    has been narrowed to fit in a '30 coupe cowl...
    DSCN4005.JPG time worn cluster ;
    s-l1600 dash.jpg get "arountoit" soon as I can ...
     
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  6. 53studecoupe
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    You do good work my friend!!!!
    I wished the cowl deal would have worked.
    Ken
     
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  7. loudbang
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    You can DELETE your own posts for awhile . Look at the wrong post and underneath like where the report button is is a delete button
     
  8. sloppy jalopies
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    just spoke with a nice fellow on the phone, he has a '34-'36 International grill...
    I want to run it on my roadster - esque truck...
    fair price, looks ok... got it... go Fastenal go...
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    int grill.jpg
     
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  9. sloppy jalopies
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    Grill is a '34 - '36 International truck,
    it is 24" wide at the top,
    a '30 Ford grill is just under 20"...
    the Int is 28" above the frame...
    the A is 27"... it won't be too bad in front of a hoodless, home made roadster pick up cab...
    a little trimming on the sides should lower it an inch or so...
    I think I can live with it being wider...
    decided not to chop and narrow... DSCN5047.JPG
     
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  10. dumprat
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    Ya know what if you narrowed the top and flipped it upside down it might look really cool.
     
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  11. sloppy jalopies
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    as what, backdrop for a front yard Nativity scene
     
  12. dumprat
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    Nah I was thinking more quad headlight 60's style weirdness
     
  13. sloppy jalopies
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    i think i'll go right side up... leaving the top wide without a hood... should be ok as the body is also wider at the top...
    '34's sides slim down to about 20" wide so I can't narrow the bottom much and still fit an A radiator in it...
    got a short pair of bent stock bar ends and some free-bee dietz 7" lights for it... couldn't find the pic... yet to be bent h/l bar... DSCN3973.JPG
     
  14. sloppy jalopies
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    ARMREST, that hides the fact that the doors are wide..
    the R E truck won't have all 4 door edges narrowed...
    Most coupester's doors are thicker than a roadster by a bunch almost an inch...
    if you can fab some caps like I use you could narrow the top of the door... giving the door top a roadsteresque look...
    at the A jam only narrow it down to the top of the hinge [ so you don't have to mess with it]…
    cut the front, top and back from about any tudor garnish moulding… it's width is about the difference between the narrow top and stock bottom of the doors...
    flip it upside down, lay the front against the top of the hinge [offset], letting it curl down and flatten out as it reaches the back of the door's interior... cut where you like it best...
    narrow the B jam of the door down to where the molding hits the edge and the garnish's arch looks right...
    make a 1" tall by 5" wide plate with [2] 2.5" long 1/4" inside diameter brake lines welded about 4" apart to it...
    it will bolt to the thinner edge of the new inner door panel just under the garnish, with the tubes pointing towards the door skin...
    cut a 5" section of the garnish from where you would rest your arm...
    add a 2.5" section to the 5" section so it slides in out of sight when not used...
    cut the sides with slight angles so it can easily slide it back in to flush...
    with bolts running through the tubes from another flange under the 5" section...
    run a lock nut and bolt the length of travel [2.5"] between the tubes as a stop...
    when you slide the 5" strip out the 2.5" it will create an armrest that can slide back into itself when not needed... all along disguising the door width a neat arm rest...
    enough of a job that the passenger side will only have the offset garnish molding...
    drew a print, but changed it 3 time before I figured it out...
    will post a pix of a better print when I get to it...
     
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  15. sloppy jalopies
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    scratched out a print... armrest 1.JPG
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    door cap and armrest tacked on... narrow [roadster style] upper door... wider / stock lower door... curls up at the front so you don't have to mess with the upper hinge...
    DSCN5503.JPG
     
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  16. WC Durant
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    I like the International grill in its stock form. Really looking forward to seeing this whole thing pieced together. Love the RPU's.
     
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  17. sloppy jalopies
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    going to need [4] male/ cowl hinges...
    . h m hinge 1.JPG
    the $1.20 - 1/4" ID tube slides into the $1.45 - 3/8" tube making the tube just smaller than the stocker...
    hinge tubes 1.JPG
    bought 4' x 3/16" x 3" cold rolled for $10.00 with a little luck and some labor should be able to make the hinge halves I need... I will probably use the odd [extra slot] style hinges, cut off the extra slotted tube and weld on my hardware store double tube... easier ?
    .
    yup...
    DSCN5488.JPG
     
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  18. sloppy jalopies
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    Widened bus seat is in the Sportster for now, but will end up in the RE truck...
    View attachment 4544379 View attachment 4544378 View attachment 4544374 Took the International bus seat apart... the frame rises just above the tulip panel...
    cut the lower then upper corners to widened the top rail 13.5" to 43" total width... fits pretty good...
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    Any of you patina guys want the brown upholstery from the seat back ? [shipping cost only].
    I will eventually get you the base skin too... but for now the base is handy for sitting on and making vroom, vroom noises...
    seat back folds up and over the front and staples to the lower back...
    seat 3.JPG View attachment 4544374 seat 7.JPG
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  19. sloppy jalopies
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    bent a couple 47" sections of 19. ga. as bedsides $30.00 Marden's …
    for a rough rod project I can bring to the topsham swapmeet early may...
    my brake didn't have the beef for it...
    I had to help it with a hammer on the tight bends at the top... edges look hammered.
    I was going to slide 1/2" x 1/2" tubing into them...
    now I will cut off the bad bends and weld the tubing on by itself...
    bed 1.JPG
     
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  20. tiredford
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    I have a friend who built a similar truck. He found out having a dash that protrudes like that really takes up more interior room than you would think. The steering wheel ends up close to the super close to the dash. I put a flat dash in mine after seeing how his turned out.
     
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  21. sloppy jalopies
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    what year truck ? I have had 8 dashes in that cowl... it is how it flows to the A pillars that makes it work out for me... otherwise I would be sporting a '38 closed car … any pix ? see ya smitty
     
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  22. sloppy jalopies
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    Cut down another '46-'47 truck hood for the stamped ford script side panels...
    welded into the reversed firewall...
    then I cut the top out to make a hood for the "sportster"...
    will repeat it for the R-E truck...
    DSCN3541.JPG DSCN3542.JPG DSCN3584.JPG DSCN3591.JPG
    hood top 1.JPG
    DSCN3770.JPG
     
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  23. loudbang
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    Script looks like it came there. :)
     
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  26. sloppy jalopies
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    yup... lazy over genius... I need [4] male / cowl hinges for the '30 cab...
    but instead of heating, bending, cooling... heating, bending the other way, cooling … then weld the new tubes on...
    I have some of the oddball [murray] style hinges that I will cut both the sleeves off, weld on the new tubes, ream to 1/4" and use the oversize hinge pins...
     
  27. sloppy jalopies
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    DSCN5499.JPG DSCN5494.JPG grabbed a murray hinge...
    cut the 2 murray tubes off …
    slid the hardware store 1/4" tube into the 3/8" tube...
    marked and cut them to length...
    tacked and checked it...
    welded it...
    ground it...
    sanded a 1/4"-20 Philips a little to be a temporary hinge pin...
    gonna work... DSCN5486 - Copy.JPG DSCN5488 - Copy.JPG DSCN5493.JPG DSCN5494.JPG DSCN5487 - Copy.JPG
     
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  28. sloppy jalopies
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    Welded up two more male/ cowl hinges today... need to re-tap the left lower hinge...
    right upper door hinge was badly boogered... replaced it...
    [3] male hinge halves = $8.50 … DSCN5514.JPG
     
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  29. sloppy jalopies
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    Tack welded the right side door [top, cap, armrest] on... whatever its called...[pix]
    Screwed on the door hinges to get the cab length, minus the cab back...
    needed to invent the subfloor from the cowl back to where I cut off the roadster-esque p-u's subfloor...[pix]
    going to cut and splice it in, but will leave it a little long and trim till it is right...
    roughed it out only to realize that the radiused flange under the doors are different widths...
    on a thousand stich home made body I am not going to cut it out... and I don't have the correct section,
    so, let it be...
    roadster-esque cab back;
    DSCN5515.JPG DSCN5516.JPG
    scabbed together subfloor ;
    DSCN5517.JPG
    door caps, armrests ;
    DSCN5518.JPG
    DSCN5528.JPG DSCN5520.JPG
    simple dash ; going to add about 1" to the outer edges of the Vicky dash to better flow into the A pillar and the inner door edge...
    the slant window dashes are about 1" narrower than '30-31 coupes...
    View attachment 4595093
     
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  30. sloppy jalopies
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    Topsham spring swapmeet, first Sunday in May, few mock up shots...
    A grill, dietz, hoodtop, this cowl and doors, roadster-esque cab back, home made 47" bed, '29 chebby frame...
    .
    DSCN5524.JPG DSCN5523.JPG DSCN5525.JPG DSCN5519.JPG DSCN5529.JPG
     
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