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1930 bugatii undressed

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by low springs, Oct 10, 2010.

  1. Bodger45
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    Just found this... Damn, what a beautiful car!!
     
  2. HELLVIS
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    one of the coolest things ever
     
  3. Ole don
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    Three cheers for the photographer! An artist showing a car that is art. A great study in engineering, Thank you.
     
  4. Huge fan of these rolling works of art. Despite having seen many body styles, over the years, have not had the opportunity to see one as up close and personal as these pictures illustrate. Thanks so much for sharing. :cool::cool::cool:
    JT
    BTW...who in the hell, lets one of these lay around dirty?? Yes, I would drive the wheels off it, if I owned it, but would be cleaned and polished and parked in my living room when done.:p:p:p
     
  5. 53mercury
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    Definitely gearhead porn. Thanks for posting. Mike
     
  6. Mr48chev
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    Thanks, those cars were/are real art pieces along with being fast. Even the littlest detail had what had to be hours of thought put into it.
     
  7. I love these Cars .ONE of the best kept secrets are the Vintage days. For all you guys who want to see and hear them up close Most Road course race tracks across the USA have a Vintage only weekeend once a year . Its not expensive and every ticket is a PIT PASS . I've been going to Lime Rock park on Labor day week end for years . You can walk thru the pits ,watch them fire em up ,smell them and go out in practice groups. NHIS also has one as well as Watkins Glen in NY. The best day I 'found is the test & tune day the day before the Main race day. You can even talk with the Mechanics . You'll see everything from Bugaties to feraries , ancient Indy cars and anything else you can imagine. I Highly reccomend it , Check your local track websiite for the events seceudle . Bruce . C
     
  8. unkledaddy
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    Thanks for posting.
     
  9. Dave B.
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    One of the most famous anecdotes about Ettore Bugatti goes like this: A customer cornered him and complained pointedly about the poor performance of the cable brakes. Bugatti, taking affront, loftily told the man that "I make my cars to go, not stop!"

    Something that you can't see in these photos is that the cylinder head is cast en-bloc with the cylinders. On one model (can't remember which one) the entire engine is reported to be a single casting, requiring that the crankshaft be removed to work on the valves! I'd love to hear any engine/gearbox stories that The37Kid might remember from his days of working on them.

    I've been a Bugatti fan for almost 50 years. I'd never heard of them until I picked up Ken Purdy's The Kings of the Road back in the early '60s. I couldn't believe all the tales until I had actually seen a couple of the cars in museums. Over the years, I've been privileged to watch various Bugs at vintage races and hill climbs. Once you start digging into the history, you find that there's really nothing else like them in the vintage car world.

    Thanks for posting the photos!

    Dave B.
     
  10. The37Kid
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    Henry Ford had CABLE BRAKES on all his cars in the mid to late 1930's and it din't hurt sales! Most parking brakes used cables too. Working on Bugatti engines was fun, but I enjoyed the bodywork more. The Type 50 was one that required the crankshaft to be removed to get to the valves. There are more than a few Bugatti owners & mechanics on the HAMB that may join in on this post.
     
  11. red baron
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    How did I miss this one!!!

    Awesome car!!
     
  12. KrisKustomPaint
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    To hell with the queen, God save Bugatti.
     
  13. temper_mental
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  15. 21tat
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    Very cool. Great pics. Dang!
     
  16. Fe26
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    Absolutley inspiring; design and detailed craftsmanship par excellance.

    I'm with Doc on Essence! Yes, 'essence'. Absolutely essential in my opinion, essence of style, essence of engineering, essence of class, essence of desire...

    Thank you for posting your very good pics of an amazing motor car.
     
  17. Truly beautiful. Thanks for posting these.

    I have also had the privilege of seeing a bug disassembled, the workmanship is inspiring.
     
  18. low springs
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    glad everyone is enjoying the pics. i was in awe when i first laid eyes on it. so much that i had to share the pics.
     
  19. Cshabang
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    thats just sexy....how I missed it the first time IDK
     
  20. 4tl8ford
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    Thank you for sharing
     
  21. shmoozo
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    In the event that anybody may be wondering why the old Bugatti racers were all painted that particular shade of blue, that color was the international auto racing color assigned to France. (The Bugatti racers were French racing cars, after all.)
     
  22. greg32
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    No one commented yet about the front axle. Note, the spring runs thru the axle. The only car I've ever seen that did it this way. These are inspiring to us hot rodders. Suggest you also look at Millers from the era. Equally trick, if not better in some ways. The post above, wondered when someone identified the color as french blue. German silver, british racing green, italian red, we got white.
     
  23. Sorta on the colors, originally America was red. But as we were absent from international competition for quite a few years Italy assumed the color. Upon returning, we were assigned white and blue.

    The earliest example of and American car running in white, I think is Walter Christie in '07
     
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  24. great pictures thanks, a real classic
     
  25. Offset
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    greg32 is correct when he states that you should look at the Millers from the same era. That is what Ettore Bugatti did when he purchased two Miller FWD 91's from Leon Duray in 1929. Despite not being designed for Grand Prix racing the Millers were very fast in European competition but lacked brakes and transmissions suitable for road racing. It is said that the Miller 91 upper cylinder head design become the DOHC design for the Bugatti Type 50 engine. The Miller was said to have heavily influenced Bugatti. The Packard Cable Specials of Duray and Ralph Hepburn remained at the Bugatti for almost 30 years until the late Griffith Borgeson purchased the cars from Bugatti and returned them to the United States in July of 1959. Both cars were restored.

    If you get a chance have a look at The Miller Dynasty book by Mark L. Dees or the Golden Age of the American race car by Borgeson. There were some truly talented craftsmen back in the early days.

    Thanks so much for sharing the pictures.

    Murray Adam
     
  26. oj
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    After pondering for many months and discussing with wise sages - what in the world does this chain/sprocket gizmo do? and i want one what ever it is.
     
  27. The lower sproket is connected to the brake lever, and the chain is connected to the front/rear brake cables- pretty cool, huh!
     
  28. oj
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    I thought that that is what it must be but couldn't verify, thanks. The thought process, technique, planning and workmanship on this thing is extraordinary.
     
  29. Bugatti (like Milller) really understood the balance/marriage of form and function!
     
  30. need louvers ?
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    Wow! not sure how I missed this post the first time through, but thank you much!
     

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