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Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Bfd305, Mar 20, 2018.

  1. Bfd305
    Joined: Dec 6, 2016
    Posts: 14


    Figured I'd start a build thread, I have never worked on anything this old and I know I am going to need some help and advise.....
    While talking with a buddy he mentioned his dad has an old Model A that hasn't been touched in over 30 years. After some discussion his dad said he would be willing to sell. In the early 80's he had had an engine rebuilt and the body work done, then it just sat. We worked a dela and I hauled it home with a truck bed full of extra parts.
    It was a Tudor, and I don't love sedans but figured it was a great way to start learning. I checked the fluids, did a quick tune-up and it fired up. We were even able to drive it around the block before the sidewalls blew out on the old weathered tires.....
    I found a set of 16" wheels with tires on Craigslist so it was back to rolling at least. Then I found a couple of bodies in western Colorado, a Sport Coupe and a Business coupe. Both were pretty hammered, but workable. We took a road trip and hauled them back home, I kept the better of the 2 and a friend kept one for a Left-hand drive project he's working on.
    The sedan went back to Kansas with my son who is going to school at McPherson. They did a chop on it and are looking for parts to get it going too.
    We just got it in the garage and started stripping it down. I have a drop spindle for the front. I need to decide on mechanical or juice brakes. Planning to do the Model T spring in the back.
    Here are a few pics. This is a budget home build so any tips and tricks are appreciated

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  2. fiftyv8
    Joined: Mar 11, 2007
    Posts: 5,157

    from CO & WA

    Great start.
    Where would we be without a good supply of model's for hot rodding.
  3. 3banjos
    Joined: May 24, 2008
    Posts: 472

    from NZ

    Two words. Bloody cool. Love that shed.
  4. Bfd305
    Joined: Dec 6, 2016
    Posts: 14


    I had both boys home today so got the body onto the frame. Put the doors in place. Now just need to decide how to go about chopping 3 - 4" off. Cut the doors down to match the rear sill and run it as a Roadster with a fixed windshield.
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  5. Gearhead Graphics
    Joined: Oct 4, 2008
    Posts: 3,797

    Gearhead Graphics
    from Denver Co

    Hell of a good start. Wish I ever had that complete/straight of a car to start with.

    The dirt tracker looks oddly familiar. I used to work for Greeley Harley, wonder if I sold you parts
  6. sloppy jalopies
    Joined: Jun 29, 2015
    Posts: 4,651

    sloppy jalopies

    I used that 5/4" sawdust infused plastic decking , as rear cockpit combing... sportie - scoop3 015.JPG
  7. 410merc
    Joined: Mar 31, 2014
    Posts: 69


    looks like a fun project!
  8. waxhead
    Joined: May 11, 2013
    Posts: 1,173

    from West Oz

    Following along.
    Joined: Nov 26, 2010
    Posts: 520

    from USA

    Nice work. I will be watching also.
  10. Bfd305
    Joined: Dec 6, 2016
    Posts: 14


    I'm in Greeley too. Need to get together. Are you going to the University School car meet on Sunday 3/25?
  11. We should, I'll PM you,
    Just found out about it, thanks. I'll help spread the word.
  12. Nailhead A-V8
    Joined: Jun 11, 2012
    Posts: 1,018

    Nailhead A-V8

    I have a coupe-ster as well but I think it's unfortunate the soft top coupes are often overlooked in this hobby i've seen some really cool 3 windows with either folding landau style tops or carson style fully removable tops and a plus in colorado you can run A/C!
    If your heart is set on a roadster remember this ain't a roadster!....they are fairly different firstly the coupes have longer doors and shorter rear 1/4's so you gain some getting in and out through the doors space vs stock roadster doors which are quite narrow....the trunk lids are the same but because of the longer 1/4 on a roadster they are positioned differently on the 1/4s also the body bead is round on the roadster and flattish on the coupe, so you can always tell it was a coupe...the first major hiccup is the body belt around the back of the cockpit if you cut the doors off right there it looks weird so as Sloppyjalopies pointed out you need some 1/2 round material around the top of the 1/4s and above trunk panel, #2 the door tops need careful planning they look hideous if left too wide #3 the coupe door post/under windshield panel is full of rectangular holes this is the one pet peeve I have when people use those posts they never cover that up... looks terrible IMO and definitely is the hallmark of a coopster ...I went with 28-9 1/4's, '30-'31 doors and 28-9 roadster door posts you can still tell of course but all the body lines run together pretty smoothly
  13. sloppy jalopies
    Joined: Jun 29, 2015
    Posts: 4,651

    sloppy jalopies

    coupester door tops... hammer formed over a wooden buck for a '30 coupe door...
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  14. Bfd305
    Joined: Dec 6, 2016
    Posts: 14


    Nailhead - Thanks for the input. I am not set on a roadster, would be just as happy with a metal coupe....but this is what I have to work with. I'm just looking at something to learn out, try to get a little more HP out of, cruise around town and hopefully run at the hill climb. Fabricating a top would be tough to do without forking out some $$$. Your points are spot on. I have held off an cutting the doors until I know what I am going to do with the body in the back. I have been thinking about the width, I could narrow them up beings I wont have side glass, just need to plan it out. I have definitely noticed the squares, might be able to add to the dash cover and cover them up. I appreciate any input, this is all new to me! Thanks

  15. Bfd305
    Joined: Dec 6, 2016
    Posts: 14


    are your doors full thickness? How do they look? I'm going to check out the decking idea. Did it flex around, or did you use multiple pieces to fit the curve?

  16. sloppy jalopies
    Joined: Jun 29, 2015
    Posts: 4,651

    sloppy jalopies

    yes they are narrowed...
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    3 pcs. ... I let it set in the sun over a deck rail with a car rim on each end... this gave me the vertical shape of the body... I traced the top view from the quarters... cut out templates... cut the decking with a sabersaw... the 1/4"-20 bolts pulled it down tight....
    get the stuff with sawdust added... sanded easily...look underneath before you buy, some have cost saving channels ... you want solid... HIH.
    Last edited: Mar 25, 2018
  17. Bfd305
    Joined: Dec 6, 2016
    Posts: 14


    Been a while since I've posted... Making some progress. Signed up as a hobby student at the local community college to dedicate some work time on the body and better my welding skills and such.
    I got the drop axle in the front, swapped the rear out to a posie. Sits a little high in the rear, but we'll see how it looks with some 750-16's on before I cut and Z it.
    Picked up a Winfiels 7-1 Head, a down draft intake and a carb. Planning to try a Supertrapp off a bike for exhaust.
    Picked up a set of juice brakes off a '40, working on that today.
    Trying to get enough finished on the body at school before winter break so I can get it home and seal and spray it, Doors are aligned and cut down, some old holes welded up and hopefully get the windshield chop done.
    Here are a few pics.....just need to stay motivated!!!
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  18. Jake_shake
    Joined: Nov 14, 2018
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  19. Bfd305
    Joined: Dec 6, 2016
    Posts: 14


    Just down the road! nice to run into people that are close.
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