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Projects ‘34 Ford Sedan Eldonius Build

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Eldonius, Apr 24, 2020.

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  1. dirty old man
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    Lots of difference between 32 & 34 rails. And a lot more vendors for the Deuces.
     
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  2. Tomastudor
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  3. Tom Bay from Arkansas City , Ks has frame rails, and all the Patch panels you need to fix your car,
    He makes all the 33-34 parts that Howels sell, Give him a call 620 441 7432
     
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  4. Dirk35
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    You frame rails look really bad. Youll be ahead to go aftermarket frame or frame rails than to try to repair those.

    I don't know if JW Garage has 34 Rails, but I can see that Speedway has them for $774 plus shipping. IF Tom Bay from Arkansas City , Ks has them and I see someone else recommended them, try that route. I'm assuming that like most of the repo parts out there, there is only 1 or 2 companies that actually stamp the parts and they sell them to different vendors, which sell them as their own. So Id go whichever you find that look decent and can ship reasonably priced.

    https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Speedway-1933-34-Ford-Reproduction-Frame-Rails,22074.html
     
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  5. Eldonius
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    Ya, you are right. The outer rail isn’t even worth considering for repair. Where the running board gap was to the body created the perfect haven for a rust fest. Figure I’ll get the outer rails off, blast the X and cross-members, and assess the path forward. I think everything else is fine....but sometimes blasting creates unpleasant revelation. Thanks for following this build and providing perspective. I appreciate it.


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  6. 343w
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    Sent a PM for a frame on Parts Classified to you, good luck!
     
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  7. Eldonius
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    Question. Actually two questions. First, why is there a key lock on the passenger door, but not on the driver door? Second, it appears that most rodders just removed or removed/filled the lights on the cowl. Is this indeed the case?


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  8. Deuce Lover
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    Ford USA and LHD countries only did the door lock on the pass side as it was so people would exit on the safe side.The Ford's in RHD countries had the lock on the drivers side. The cowl lights as well as the right side tail light were included on the Deluxe models.Deluxe's also had an in dash ashtray and cigarette lighter.I have a '33 std tudor and no cowl lights,single horn,no ash tray or lighter.I did add the second sunvisor as it only came with a single.
     

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    There was only a lock on the passenger side. Most guys don't run cowl lights unless is an 80's style resto rod.
     
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  10. Eldonius
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    Thanks for the history! How was exiting on the passenger side considered unsafe? Wouldn’t this be the curb side and the driver side would be opening next to passing traffic? I’m missing something here. I’m guessing most hot rodders just left the door lock intact. Were deluxe model cowl lights filled, or were deluded just not common to be turned into hot rods?


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  11. Eldonius
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    Was scratching my head about the one sided door lock...at first wondering if it wasn’t an original door or something . Thinking I’ll just fill the cowl light hole as it would have been on a standard and nothing about keeping it seems consistent with a hot rod as I look through reams of old pictures and learn the history. I wasn’t born until ‘74 so this all occurred well before my time, so I appreciate the history lessons from the HAMB


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  13. Deuce Lover
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    The pass side was the safe or curb side.So when all exited the door was then locked if so desired.On the left side you lift the handle up on the inside to lock the drivers door.Kind of a pain in today's world as I would always ask my wife to pull the handle up inside ,then I walk around to lock the door after she got out. Roadsters and Phaeton's do not have the door lock so they never locked. Since you were born in 1974,here is a pic of the '34 roadster I built in '74.I was 30 then.
     

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  14. Eldonius
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    Wow! That’s a great looking car! Congratulations on making the cover...and thanks for teaching me as I’m just a young pup!


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  15. duncan
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    Yes, that is correct.
     
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