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Technical Ford banjo axle/hub torque value?

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by zgears, Apr 20, 2014.

  1. zgears
    Joined: Nov 29, 2003
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    I'm looking for the official Ford banjo axle/hub torque setting? I've read 150-220 ftlbs, I don't want to over or under do it.
     
  2. TV
    Joined: Aug 28, 2002
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    If your talking about the axel nut, you better use a six foot snipe.
     
  3. fatkoop
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    I torque mine to 190-200 ft.lbs., but it is more important that the taper on the axle and inside the hub are in good shape and match together well. Gouges or grooves in either one or rough areas will prevent the tapers from mating well enough to be reliable. If you can, seat the tapers together using valve grinding compound until they mate nearly perfectly. Then clean everything up good and torque. Sorta like hand-lapping valves.
     
  4. Kirk Hanning
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    I've always torqued to 225#

    The quality of where the hub meets the axle taper is just as important. Every banjo rearend that I've set up I pull the bearings out of the hub and use valve Grinding compound to lap the tapers together. You could virtually run without a keyway if the taper seats well.
     

  5. Atwater Mike
    Joined: May 31, 2002
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    Can't recall actual torque value, but Hear This:

    Before fitting drum/hub to axle and keying/ torqueing, clean axle spline with lacquer thinner or acetone/carb cleaner. Do the same with the hub bore, remove axle key, and using coarse valve grinding compound, lap the surfaces. Clean surfaces, and lap again with the fine compound.
    This will make a huge difference in final fit, longevity of axle keys, and ultimately, axle and hub life.
    Nothing ruins a day like a peeled axle.
     
  6. And Do Not apply any lube on final fit!
     
  7. Remember if it is not tight enough the joint will move and work the axle resulting in an eventual crack and failure. If you are not running safety clips or safety hubs the wheel will come off and…

    Charlie Stephens
     
  8. tommy
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    Do you think we need to explain what valve grinding compound is?
     
  9. seb fontana
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    from ct

    Maybe...Its still around isn't it? :D
     
  10. 220 lbs was recommended in the Ford Service Bulletins.
     
  11. hock32
    Joined: Oct 23, 2008
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    I had a few pics from a set of axles I lapped recently, I spent about an hour on each one. The last couple of pics show an axle that had been hit with a hammer and distorted the taper. I found it when I tried lapping/fitting it to a hub.
     

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  12. Bruce Lancaster
    Joined: Oct 9, 2001
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    A rule of thumb...if you are not in mortal fear of tearing the threaded part off of the axle it is too loose, and if you are not expecting your puller to explode and kill you by the time the damn thing pops loose it was too loose.
     
  13. good stuff....thanks all.....
     
  14. V4F
    Joined: Aug 8, 2008
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    from middle ca.

    no matter the torque , re do a few times .......
     

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