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Desoto 276/291 deck height? rods?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Mnhotrodbuilder, Mar 16, 2014.

  1. Mnhotrodbuilder
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    Do you hemi guru's know what the stock deck height is for a 276/291 Desoto? I have been looking for awhile and have not found the numbers.
    I think the Tex Smith book had it listed but my copy is 6,803 miles away.

    Info I have is for a 330,341 and 345 not the 276/291. 10.375 is the deck height for a tall deck.

    Also, I know BB 6.625 Pontiac rods will work with a some machining. Will the 6.800 BB Pontiac rod work to change to a higher rod to stroke ratio?

    FYI, Custom pistons will be fit to the 291. Also, my crankshaft is de-stroked to 3 inches.

    Thanks
     
  2. sunbeam
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    Deck 9.54" rod 6.067"
     
  3. Mnhotrodbuilder
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    Thanks sunbeam I appreciate it! I have the stock rod numbers. I am still trying to figure out if a 6.800 will work with my application.
     
  4. TR Waters
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    You are mixing some information. The Pontiac rod swap is/was being done on the Chrysler 331 and/or 354 engines. The Desoto rod big end width is .930 +/-, where the Chrysler is .990 +/-. The low deck Desoto also has a small 2.061+/- rod journal.

    A sbc rod is better suited for a low deck Desoto.
     

  5. George
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    next obvious question is...why destroke a small cube engine?
     
  6. sunbeam
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    You should be able to get a piston made with a 1.24 compression height.
     
  7. Mnhotrodbuilder
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    I got the crankshaft de-stroked already. I assume it was done to stay within a specific racing class back in the day.

    I thought Earlyhemibill ran Pontiacs in his turbo 345? My understanding is Pontiacs were .940 on the big end. I will have to look into this more. SBC rods would be great since there are thousands of options for them. Thanks for the help TR.
     
  8. George
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    What will the CID be?
     
  9. sunbeam
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    At .030 over on a 291 the bore and stroke would be the same as a 265 Chevy.
     
  10. TR Waters
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    The Pontiac big end width is .995. And even though the math may show a 6.8 rod is possible, it might not be physically possible.
    Another thing not mentioned is if the stock journal diameter was kept with the destroke.
     
  11. George
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    He hasn't said what the stroke is.
     
  12. TR Waters
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    3 inch. It is stated in his opening post.
     
  13. George
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    Ooops!:eek: 265 odd
     
  14. Mnhotrodbuilder
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    That is a great question on the stock journal size. I will have to check when I get home and let you know.

    George, the block I got with the crank is bored .125 over and sleeved on all 8 with a huge main girdle. I was told it was built to run very high rpm. Maybe they wanted to create a little zinger! I enjoy playing around with the Desoto's. Since speed parts are hard to come by, I'm always looking for interchangeable parts like rods...etc
     
  15. George
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    The 259 Dodge/Plym Polys were popular to convert to hemi for Bonneville because it got them under the 260 cube limit in a Class. Maybe this was for something else.
     
  16. Mnhotrodbuilder
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    I thought of that also, since with a 3" stroke and a stock bore would give them 260ci. E class at Bonneville if I remember right.
     
  17. George
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    OK, and then someone later went with a max boring.
     

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