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History A day of infamy--Dec.7,1941 8am

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Deuce Daddy Don, Dec 7, 2012.

  1. 327-365hp
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    I wasn't born until '59. But I will never forget the date.
     

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  2. OahuEli
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    Had to work today so I was at the shipyard. This year, instead of the four F-22s that usually flew over and did the "Missing Man" formation they had a single WWII fighter plane make a couple of loops over Ford Island at maybe 200 feet. I was kinda disappointed the F22s didn't show but the old fighter was pretty cool. Lotsa people on hand too from what I could see over at the Arizona Memorial. Despite current conditions in Washington, (or maybe in spite of) America hasn't forgotten this day.
    For those of you whom I spoke to last year that lost family on the USS Arizona, it is now a habit of mine to say good morning to Ned, Clyde and Purdy when I see the Arizona Memorial from across the harbor. Just paying my respects to some real American heroes. Eli USN 1974-1978
     
  3. Propwash - heard a P40B that was at Pearl - later training crash - later recovery - then over to England - restored - has been bought and is returning to the states....the Collins Foundation bought it and is getting back over here...not sure if it's the same one....

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  4. leon renaud
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    I wasn't around then either I came along in 54 my dad enlisted right after Pearl and I'm told was part of the first wave to hit Normandy. They simply don't teach History in school anymore talk to any kid today about it! we were luckier than the rest of the world in one sense because every other place that got attacked by Jap Naval and air forces were followed up with landings of ground forces Japan never tried to follow up Pearls attack with ground troops ! At the end of WWII when he was asked why Japan never tried to land troops here Yamamoto said "Because we knew that behind every blade of grass we would meet an American with a gun we knew we could not win a land battle there" Tonight We were planning on attending a dinner dance in Memory of Pearl Harbor given by the local VFW, I had wanted to read off the names of those who gave all that day at Pearl Harbor this is a link to the official casualty report for 7 December 1941 at Pearl harbor.Pearl Harbor Casualties - Deaths by Location, Fort and Ship
     
  5. Wasn't even a second thought but my grandfather God rest his soul flew the hump during the war

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  6. the japs did strike the usa after pearl harbor. there were balloon bombs and there was a battle in alaska. the alaska battle tied up a lot of troops and equipment just in case there was going to be a invasion there. also the germans used u-boats to sink our transport ships off the coast of florida.
     
  7. leon renaud
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    There were a lot of small attacks but no massive troop invasions like other countries. There were many sub attacks all along the east coast that were kept quiet by our government we even had German espionage agents put ashore on Cape Cod. the sub that dropped them off is now a dive attraction off Block Island. All I'm saying is we did not have to live through occupation the way other countries did.
     
  8. That is a very cool shift knob.
     
  9. 36 Vette
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    I was 13 months old then but still have some memories of the period toward the end of the war including fuel ration stamps, rationed coffee and meat and trains with soldiers going past as we waited at the RR crossing down the road.

    Kind of embarrassing to remember but Mom and Dad brought me home from the hospital on VJ (victory over japan) Day after having my tonsils out. Cars and people were out everywhere waving white hankies out the car windows and honking their horns. When you are five the world is about you so I figured all those people were happy to see young Jerry Brown out of the hospital and on my way home.:eek: I expressed my wonderment that so many cared about me and Mom quickly let the air out of my balloon.
     
  10. Deuce Daddy Don
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    Thanks to all that responded to my thread!---Here it is 72 years after that fateful day, & hardly a mention of it in the news media.
    I was only 10 at that time, but vividly remember our ears glued to the radio station all day long for the latest reports.----Don
     
  11. 56sedandelivery
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    Yesterdays local paper here, had a front page story about a local Pearl Harbor survivor. He's 93 years old, and living with his family. They are getting old. I was't here until the Korean Conflict, 1951, but my father was Career USAF. Butch/56sedandelivery.
     
  12. tallhtrddr
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    I agree. No mention of this day in the news if little at most. We need to remember and give thanks to the veterans.

    Thank you

    Austin


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  13. Stretchmobile
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    My Dad was living in Clovis, Ca and was 6 years old. My mom was also 6 but living in occupied Holland with a Jewish family hiding in the basement.
     
  14. Chrisbcritter
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    Yep, same one:
    http://www.boston.com/news/local/ma...e-returning/qhgv60p7HIOSfRIRDDrVVM/story.html

    Don't know about the quote, but Admiral Yamamoto was killed in 1943 when U.S. P-38s shot down the G4M bomber in which he was a passenger.

    I wasn't around yet; Dad was 13 and Mom was 10. They both remember hearing about it on the radio.
     
  15. I wasn't around yet Wasn't born till Nov. 44'. My dad joined the Navy right after the attack and was on a "tin can" (destroyer escort) USS Evans. He saw action in almost all the major naval battles in the Pacific. Two weeks after he was transferred off the ship to San Diego the ship was hit by five Kamikazis during the battle of Okinawa. 22 men were lost. The Evans and USS Hadley another DE shot down a total of 51 Jap planes during that battle. Sept. 45' issue of Liberty magazine did an article on the event "The Indestructible Destroyers".
     
  16. leon renaud
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    The quote is true I have apparently given credit for it to the wrong officer
     
  17. leon renaud
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    Collins did not buy it an "Anonymous" donor paid several million dollars for the plane and gave it to the foundation .They won't name the buyer or how much he paid for it other than the several million comment.
     
  18. Never forget this day. Dad joined the USN in 1942. I was born in Navy hospital in August 1945. Still never owned a Jap car.
     
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  19. tfeverfred
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    My dad was too young to be in the war, but he was mad enough, to NEVER buy a Japanese or German car.
     
  20. toml24
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    I was in Hawaii a number of years ago on vacation and as I was waiting to take the boat ride out to the USS Arizona there is a very large book store that sells just about every book ever printed about the attack and I noticed some books had dramatic photos that have never made it into popular circulation. If you ever want to see the very best collection of photos regarding the attack you really have to go to Pearl Harbor.
     
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  21. gyronaut
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    So what does a car designer do in response to the attack on Pearl Harbor? My Uncle was Alex Tremulis who was Chief Stylist at Auburn-Cord-Duesenberg, had put the external exhausts on the supercharged 1937 Cord, served in Harley Earl's Art and Colour in the Oldsmobile group, designed the 1941 Chrysler Thunderbolt show car, customized cars for the Hollywood stars, and designed a few tiny American Bantams. So he was pretty seasoned as a car designer, but shifted gears to air power during the war. He and George and Tina Cornelius had a long relationship into the 1970's, but during the war they designed this massive flying boat/aircraft carrier/bomber. It was to carry three twin engine aircraft in its fuselage along with some pretty massive bombs 15 feet long by 6 feet diameter. The planes could take off and hopefully land on the back of the mothership, possibly while in-flight. This outside-the-box thinking carried on within him for the rest of his life.

    He described his experience as an advanced aircraft designer at Wright Field as his best ever. There as no putting down of anyone's ideas, everyone's suggestions were taken seriously. Those guys banded together from all disciplines to form a united front to the threat of invasion and came up with some pretty unique solutions to gaining air superiority. After the war, he was singled out along with ten other soldier-scientists at Wright Field as ones who tamed the skies during the war. Just after the war he met up with Preston Tucker, but that's another story...

    Anyway, here's their Invader over Tokyo, three times the length of a B-29 with a fuselage height around six stories. It's one and a half times the length of the Spruce Goose, a football field long. A battleship for the skies:

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  22. Ric Dean
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    .. Thanks guys for remembering them! - I was born 6 mos later but I remember some of them coming home.
    My Deuce 5W wares an original 1942 US Army 3<sup>RD</sup> Air Corps ceramic Grille Badge; among other mementos to them.
     

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  23. 1oldracer
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    I was born a month before and was Christen that day about 4 hours before the attack.
     
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  24. my grandparents were a few months old each. though my grandfather used to know a guy who was there.

    I play records quite often, and I have one that has all the important radio broadcasts from WWII. I play it through a 1933 zenith cabinet radio I have that has a phonograph input. gives me serious chills whenever I listen to any of those broadcasts, especially pearl harbor. and thinking that many years ago, that same broadcast came out of that radio, but that time it was for real.


    I know I sure as hell will NEVER forget, and I try my best to make sure no one around me does either.
     
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  25. HOLLYWOOD GRAHAM
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    My Dad had already served 8 years in the Navy and 4 years in the Coast Guard and was a Motor Copper for LAPD since 1937 on 12-7-41.(he joined the Navy at 14, lying about his age) One of the Battleships he was on was USS W. Virginia which was at Pearl with many friends still aboard. He did not hold grudges against Germans or Japanese after the war but during the war was another story.
     
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