what would be the best motor trans swap for a 1954 International R100. Would like to go sbc and a four or five speed. Maybe even and International V8. Any help or ideas
392 ih they are a 345 on roids get a later one with improved cooling and they make a good selection of cams and roller rockers for them plus they have intakes and headers now and not much sounds like a hopped up binder v-8 trust me cause I've got one in a 1310 Posted using the Full Custom H.A.M.B. App!
Would probably have to do some mods to the steering to fit the 392 I would think Posted using the Full Custom H.A.M.B. App!
392 is really wide, the steering column will interfere with the head. We put one in a 2-ton by cutting the column and using three U-joints and a support bearing to route the shaft around the engine. When putting a Hemi in a half-ton, my brother put a 1939 IHC steering box behind the axle. Lots of room then. I would use just about any other engine in a hot rodded truck. IH V8's are big heavy low RPM sluggers, and kind of doggy for just cruising around.
Not a hemi ih made a 392 looks lime a 345 but a bit taller it'll fit in your 54 Posted using the Full Custom H.A.M.B. App!
So you think that 392 will work. Did international make a 4 speed trans that did not have a creeper first gear. Also its not really a hot rod truck per say. I'm building it stock looking on the outside and dressed like a stock looking IH sales and service truck. I just want more speed and power than the silver diamond. Would love to keep the running grear International if possiable just to keep with the look I'm going for. I don't minf some mods like disc in the front and modern running gear but I don't want to get into sectioning the fram or camaro front end heck I'm ok with the straght axel. Posted using the Full Custom H.A.M.B. App!
Ill post some pics of my service truck for you today you'll love it if that's the look your going for Posted using the Full Custom H.A.M.B. App!
I know this is only a model but its kinda the look I'm going for but with a Very four speed running gear. Just thought it would be cool to bring it to life. Posted using the Full Custom H.A.M.B. App!
Any of the V8 engines will be more fun to drive than the silver diamond. 392 are hard to come up with a 304 or 345 would be a good engine.
Fatblock.. Here is s possibility for you.. 76 scout 2 wd. 345 auto (torqueflite) Front disc brakes Runs and drives.. 100% stock.. I have been looking for an early IH pickup to swap this running gear into.. Sounds like you have the truck !! Pm or call me if you are interested. Dave lewis 831-262-7294 Posted using the Full Custom H.A.M.B. App!
......I've got a strong 392..........might be for sale or trade Posted using the Full Custom H.A.M.B. App!
Where are you located. When you get time post some pics of your service truck. I would love to see it. PM me with the particulars of your 392 and the one you are selling. Thanks Posted using the Full Custom H.A.M.B. App!
One thing you are going to find with the IH V8 engines that the guys are suggesting is that there isn't a hell of a lot of aftermarket pieces for them meaning that you end up going to the IH dealer and paying full bore list price for basic engine parts. That and they are big and heavy as they are truck engines intended for big trucks. Personally I'd put a GM, Ford or Mopar V8 in it or maybe even a big six like a 300 Ford.
A SV series IH engine (266,304,345,392) is not going to fit into your 1954 R series with the stock steering column. Whats wrong with the stock inline 6? I'am really happy with the stock BD240 in my 1956 S112. For a hot rod i would agree to find a GM, Ford or Mopar engine, SV's are not hot rod engines, they are heavy 700LB pulling engines. You can build 3 GM 350's for the price that one SV will cost you to build. There is very little aftermarket for them and what there is, is way more $ then parts for one of the big 3. I love my SV's and Internationals (have owned over 130) but they are not hot rod engines.
You can hot rod binders they have roller rockers for em big ass cams and that 392 responds very nice to port work true they won't swing to ten grand but they won't cost anymore to overhaul or hop up than some of the cads flatheads and olds and buicks guys are always wanting to throw in stuff on here. But to each his own I say keep it ih Posted using the Full Custom H.A.M.B. App!
I know it would be easier to build a SBC and cheaper but I am kinda set on keeping this old International all International. I think it would be way cool. Like my Brother once told me.... If you want to go fast buy a vette If you want to be comfortable buy a caddy. I think the whole International set up would be a cool look and awesome when you open the hood Posted using the Full Custom H.A.M.B. App!
Never said you couldn't hot rod one its just not cost affective for what you can build out of one of the big 3. Those Roller rockers nearly cost what a good SBC would cost. They are fun engines and can be built up pretty good it just takes way to much money for what you get. I have a built 392 (404) in my scout Terra and its fun but i could have a 500+HP BBC for way less then i have in the 392 that still does not like high RPM. If you want to keep it IH, keep the stock six cylinder in it, replace the the stock SD220 with a later BD264/265 out of a larger truck(bolts right in) for a gain in HP. My S112 runs 60 down the highway with no problems and its plently peppy with the stock BD240, T-98 4-speed and 4.11 gears.
Does IH make a four speed trans like out of a travelall that does not have a creeper first? And if so what one would I look for Posted using the Full Custom H.A.M.B. App!
Highest 1st gear for a IH 4-speed is 4.03:1 the T-98 and t-18 4 speeds Pre 1973 in the trucks and t-alls will have a low first gear, granny gear in the 6.00-6.32:1 range, the 74-75 trucks and t-alls with the close ratio t-19 will have the 4.03:1 first gear, also look for a t-19 out of a 1974-1980 2 wheel drive Scout they are more common with the 4.03:1 close ratio t-19 but some will have t-19 wide ratio's (6.32:1). If your 54 has a stock 4-speed in it, a SV engine will bolt to it with a V8 bellhousing from a later truck, the rear engine mounts and clutch linkage will need to be reworked.
I'm quite happy with the SD240 I swapped into my '54 R100. And kept the standard 3sp. column shift, though an S10 T5 swap is in the future. Either way, the 4sp. or 3sp. top gear will still only be a 1:1 ratio. I also have a 345 4bbl and 392 2bbl, and wouldn't consider using either one. Super Scout Specialists make 4bbl aluminum intakes for the SV's, but just trying to fit one in there would be no picnic.
IH engines don't like to spin fast. If you turn them to 4,000 rpm, they tend to ventilate themselves. I think the 390s we had in our work trucks were governed to 3600. They are not only wide but they are very heavy.
If you get time can you post some pictures of that service truck. Thanks Posted using the Full Custom H.A.M.B. App!
I saw an article this weekend on a company that makes independent front suspension for my R100. Comes with the cross member rack and pinion and disc brakes. It was in a classic truck article. Has anybody else seen this. Any thoughts on the independent front suspension. Posted using the Full Custom H.A.M.B. App!
My two cents, 345-392 are very torquey engines, don't like rpm and will kill you to drive it, you'll pass everything but a gas station. Long stroke, huge torque, horrible mileage, I would pass.
That seems to be most peoples thought on this. Its not gonna be a daily driver but a fun truck. Just thought it would be kinda cool to have a redone 54 with a V8 International power plant in it Sent from my DROID RAZR HD using H.A.M.B. mobile app
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