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T5(S10) transmission install in 1929 coupe

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by scrap metal 48, Jan 23, 2013.

  1. scrap metal 48
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    One of my winter projects this year was to replace the coupe's 3 spd with an S10 5 spd.. I read all the T5 threads here which helped me install the 5 spd without a hitch..I modified the T5 by cutting approximately 1/2" off the tip of the input shaft and 2" off the bearing retainer after comparing the 2 transmissions side by side.. I also used a die grinder to extend the splines on the input shaft.. I then made sure the GM Safari Van clutch disc(11" and 14 spline) would move freely on the extended splines.. More to come...
     

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  2. 60srailjob
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    Cool scrap metal 48, nice job, asking because not sure, you extended the splines do they have to be heat treated? good job!
     
  3. scrap metal 48
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    I then installed the trans after drilling holes for 1/2" bolts.. You can also see the difference in the trans mount from the 3 spd and the 5 spd.. A simple piece of flat plate welded to the trans cross member was all that was needed to mount the 5 spd.. Yet more to come...
     

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  4. scrap metal 48
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    I modified the S10 shifter to accept an old swap meet handle buy cutting some off, threading some holes and flattening one side so handle could be attached.. One more installment...
     

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    Here's a comparrison between the old 3 spd and the new S10 5 spd installed .. First pic is the 5 spd....
     

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  6. scrap metal 48
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    I did not heat treat the splines and don't know if it's necessary....
     
  7. 60srailjob
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    looks good man!
     
  8. scrap metal 48
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    I bolted the S10 trans to an early bellhousing and used a hydraulic slave adapted to it.. This set up worked fine for a year with the 3 spd trans so I didn't see any need to change it.. I made the slave bracket out of one old rumble deck lid bracket.....
     

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    What year transmission is from the S10? Electronic speedo I'm guessing....
     
  11. scrap metal 48
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    Yea, it's an 1989 from a V6.. Just going to use the tach for now cause I'm still confused about switching to mechanical or trying to make an electric speedo work...
     
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  12. Good job on the swap. Just finished the swap in my truck, used a '93 with electronic speedo. I'm going with the Cable-X converter this spring when I get some extra cash together.
     
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  13. scrap metal 48
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    How much are the cable X converters??
     
  14. Kiwi 4d
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    Around $340 , they work great, but a column clamp on electronic sppedo in a tach type cup would be way cheaper.


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  15. mink
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    Why does the input shaft need modification, My camaro t5 bolted up to my 250ci without any issue. Just curious
     
  16. brokenspoke
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    The camero has a different imput shaft.....than the S 10
     
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  17. GPS is another option that works well.
     
  18. chopt top kid
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    The input shaft on the S10 T5 is 9/16" longer than the Camaro T5 due to the S10 tranny was originally designed to bolt to a 4-banger Isuzu engine. Someone makes or used to make a spacer plate to bolt up the S10 tranny to a standard GM bell, but you still had to cut off or change out the bearing retainer to get the correct length on the throwout bearing carrier...
     
  19. scrap metal 48
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    Your correct chopt top.. Mine was from a V6 and it too needed the input shaft modified.. It finally warmed up enough to drive it some distance and I'm very satisfied so far..
     
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  23. Adam F
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    Looks good. I am about to do the same conversion. How much did you get your tailshaft shortened by?

    Did you use the old Saginaw gearbox mount?

    Adam
     
  24. scrap metal 48
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    Adam, I had to modify both the drive shaft and the trans mount...
     
  25. Adam F
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    Figured as much....

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