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Discussion in 'Traditional Customs' started by blacksheep55, Oct 11, 2013.

  1. blacksheep55
    Joined: Jan 26, 2011
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    blacksheep55
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    from jasper ga

    Hey guys now that I have my old gasser car "done" I decided to build my wife the car she wants. I picked up this cherry survivor '53 chev the other day and am flirting with the idea of chopping it. My worst fear is f'n up a cherry car and I'm doing my homework, but needed to ask if anyone had any helpful suggestions about this job and any tips on the back glass. I fabricated everything on my '55 and it turned out nice but I'm no Bill Hines and want to make sure I do this right. Don't be pissed I'm asking, I know it's a dead horse of a topic just looking for general advice.
     

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  2. Guapo's six2 rag
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    from So Cal

    Bill is one of the best when it comes to sinking in those Chevy rear windows, I've seen him do a few of them back in the day. Check out hotrodhotline.com they have a diagram on how to sink that window.
     
  3. engine138
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    I like her just the way it sits. mild custom nosed, decked & shaved.
     
  4. hudson hot rod
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    I hunted all over that site and can't find anything on sinking the rear window, do you know the link to it? I have searched the HAMB endlessly and can't find any detailed pics on the sinking process. A lot of the links that people have posted about it are long gone. Can anyone post some detailed pics or posts of the sinking process?
     

  5. I would be hard pressed to take a axe to a nice old survivor but it's your car. HRP
     
  6. There's no doubt the chops look awesome.
    It's all the details to make them look correct, finished, and work properly, that's the hard part. You'll probably spend 10 times as much time effort and $ on those little items as you will on doing the chop.
     
  7. Guapo's six2 rag
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    from So Cal

    Yeah, go to " Hot rod M.D." , then "Paint & Body", then I believe you'll find it on the second page " chopping a top" or something like that. It's a drawing showing a rear window sunken into the trunk.

    You gotta cut the bottom of the window channel so it will allow the window to sink, make sure to leave the part of the window frame where the stainless attached cause that part sits against the window with the rubber seal glued to the window while the window sits on a channel in the package tray area. Send me a pm and ill give you my # to explains better. It's hard putting it in words.
     
  8. 117harv
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  9. hudson hot rod
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  10. hudson hot rod
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    I would gladly trade my car for another 53/54 that is chopped already....know of any? :D
     
  11. john~N~dallas
    Joined: Dec 30, 2009
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    I am chopping my 54, back glass i have 50 Chevy coupe glass that will be going in. It's going to be a 2 3/4inch chop up front, the rear will be what ever looks good with gentle slope toward the back. There is a thread that Ian Berky did chopping a 53 that has lots of good pics and lots of detail, walks you through the entire process. I would start with that, good luck john


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  12. atomickustom
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    I put a '46-48 Chevy rear window in mine specifically because I didn't know what to do with the wraparound rear glass (other than sell it to a restorer - it was factory tinted and mint condition) and because I prefer the look of a smaller rear window in a chopped car. Some will say '49-51 Ford rear window will also work but it's too humped.

    Somewhere here on the HAMB I did a thread on the chop but the pictures are in some weird format so no one paid much attention to it. In there somewhere are a couple of photos that show how I spliced in the rear window. I'm sure it's just like John~N~Dallas's but with a slightly different glass.
     
  13. Jasper6120
    Joined: Jul 18, 2007
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    from Australia

    Yeah... I don't love the idea of cutting up such a clean car. Chopping is a pretty ugly business. Surely there are some beaters out there you can chop the heck out of?
     
  14. TJratz
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    Ian has pretty much deleted all pics from every post he has done on here.
     
  15. Gotgas
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    Chop the hell out of that thing. The late '40s and early '50s sedans are prime chopping material.

    That said, I always liked Hoffman's hardtopped sedan...

    [​IMG]
     
  16. Kail
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    from Austin, TX

    I know you can purchase replacement laminate rear glass for these which can be cut down by an experienced glass guy, that is what i would recommend.

    As far as sinking the glass you can cut the frame and leave it on the glass then move it down and tack in place then brace, remove glass, and build down to the new channel. Then when you do the new rubber you cut a rubber and make a false window rubber outline.
    Now the other issue is the beltline will sit wider in the corners once the glass is sunk so you have to modify this to fill the gap which is no easy task..
    So back to what i said before, laminate rear glass and have cut or go with a different non wrap rear glass and make new sail panels..


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  17. fastcar1953
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    so dids you chop it yet? any updates?
     
  18. Gambino_Kustoms
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    different non wrap rear glass and make new sail panels..
     
  19. Mr48chev
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    ^^^^ Alex knows what he's talking about for sure.

    I'd still ask the lady of the house how she wants it as it ain't fun sleeping on the couch because she is pissed because you hacked her car up when she didn't want it chopped.
     
  20. 0NE BAD 51 MERC
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    See if you can source a copy of Tex Smiths how to chop tops. it has lots of photos related to laying down as well as sinking the glass frames. also food for though the 53 business coupes had a smaller rear window much like the 49-52 rear windows which would work also. I used a 41 chevy in a 52 hardtop as well as my 51 merc. but I really like the small window look. just make sure all your door gaps and panels fit and then brace the inside completely before you make a single cut!!!!!
     
  21. roddinron
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    Yeah, right, a '49-'51 Ford will never work.:rolleyes:
     
  22. atomickustom
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    No comment.
     
  23. TheKeystoneKid
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    from Allentown

    These cars look great chopped
     
  24. 53sled
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    I miss my car. :(
     
  25. shawn13ray
    Joined: Feb 23, 2014
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    from Arvada

    I just chopped my 54 this weekend here are a few pics[​IMG]
     
  26. shawn13ray
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    shawn13ray
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    from Arvada

  27. shawn13ray
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    shawn13ray
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    from Arvada

    V notched the Pilers [​IMG]
     
  28. shawn13ray
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    from Arvada

    Then cut top off I took 5" out of the front window[​IMG]
     
  29. shawn13ray
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    from Arvada

    Slanted the pilar back in [​IMG]
     
  30. shawn13ray
    Joined: Feb 23, 2014
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    shawn13ray
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    I'm switching the rear window with a 46 ford sedan back window it was all done by Rick Murray at Krazy Kreations in Denver and all the grunt work by me lol but so far so good I will post more as I get it done but if you want a chop Rick Murray at Krazy Kreations in Denver Colorado is the place to go
     

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