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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by jhnarial, Sep 16, 2008.

  1. bjinatj
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    Inner trunk lid panel tacked in.



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  2. Model A Mark
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    that looks great bjinatj, lots of hard work there.
    post a pic of the whole car will yu
     
  3. bjinatj
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    Sorry for the poor quality pics. I didn't realize how bad they were until I had already left the shop. The body is in pretty nice shape. The owner has me building a trunk and fixing the main problem areas. I think he is then selling it.


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  4. Model A Mark
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    that's a grate looking body, thanks for posting
     
  5. bjinatj
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    Still working on her..


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  6. MP&C
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    I media blasted the inside of the upper gate to clean it up before welding the new part on. Unfortunately this revealed more in the way of pits, through holes, etc., so it now looks like more fabrication....

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    Time to attempt some dies for the Lennox. Tonight's choice is some 1" thick phenolic sheet...

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    Here's the profile we're looking for...

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    The dies installed in the holders....

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    An offset bend was added to the sample 19ga in the brake, then the first of three passes.....

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    Final pass.....

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    Dies held up well....

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    Safety tip of the day, 3" roloc discs do a good job of shaping phenolic, so skin is no match.... (note thumb in above pic)

    Where my "test sample" was made initially with straight bends in the brake, the actual piece on the lift gate is not straight, so the bends on the "good" piece will need to be made using the tipping wheel.

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    The profile needs just a bit of tweaking, and I may try using a piece of metal inserted in a band saw blade cut to sharpen up some of the details.

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  7. bjinatj
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    Looking good!
     
  8. MP&C
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    Thanks Ronnie!

    Hopefully this one will be a keeper...

    Checked the lower profile of the upper gate with radius sweeps to lay out the new piece...

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    Laying out the pattern on 19ga steel....

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    Tipping wheel in the bead roller...

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    ......and a newly modified back stop, much better than the flat one.....

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    Offset added with the tipping wheel......

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    Then run through the Lennox.....

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    More tipping, then the step die used in place of skateboard wheel with the tipping wheel for the lower 1/4" fold...

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    Still need to fold the top in the window opening, until next time...
     
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  9. Model A Mark
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    damn that looks good
     
  10. THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER
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    Really nice work and good pictures too. Thanks
     
  11. MP&C
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    Tonight I made a small sample to test the fold of the window opening. Well actually, a few samples, as I started off by producing a small pile of scraps.....about three tries unsuccessfully, then this one, beginning with using the bead roller tipping wheel....

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    This is about as far as it would go, and with the good piece already having bends at the bottom, would be a bit less once tried on that piece. This will require a custom made "anvil" for some hammer action...
    The donor:

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    As modified:

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    .....then for some manual tipping...

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    Comparison to the original....

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    This looks close, next task will be to cut a sample out of the original and see how close we actually are...
     
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  12. Great work and nicely equipped shop . Are the two gauges with 4 and 28 radius gages ?
     
  13. whtbaron
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    That's bloody awesome! You need to practice leaping tall buildings with a single bound...
     
  14. Rods & Relics
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    Spose that depends on where your from?
    We call them "sweeps" here in Oz.
     
  15. MP&C
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    called sweeps in these parts as well :D
     
  16. jpgraphics
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    sub'd

    this is thread is too much!

    JP
     
  17. oztinbasher
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    Nice work MP&C, Isn't reciprocating machines great, handy tool to have.
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    Cheers Steve
     
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  18. Rods & Relics
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    I love them too Steve, I just wish I had the time to make the dies :eek:
     
  19. MP&C
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    Nice work Steve!
     
  20. woodbox
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    I had an issue with clearance under the hood on my roadster for the aircleaner. So out with the hammer and wheel. Starting with a base plate then beating a top to match. I am pretty happy with the end result.


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  22. THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER
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    That is a nice solution to a tight packaging problem. Good job.
     
  23. woodbox
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    Thanks guys! I have been chewing on this problem for quite some time and am glad to have solved it so easily. I initially had visions of great involved ducting to a remote filter element located beside the left side of the block, under the exhaust! Happy to have not gone down that road!

    Cheers.:cool:
     
  24. MP&C
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    OK, enough of my practice pieces, time to finish the rest of the bends. Just to make sure we don't need any "tweaking", I'll cut a profile sample out of the center. This spot weld one the inner flange is far enough away so I won't need to grind out a spot weld, and still have enough of that flange for a good measurement. In other words, removed with minimal effort where it still holds it's shape accurately.

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    Our profile template:

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    Just to compare to our test sample, looks like the inner flange was bent down a bit much in the manual hammering, will have to ease up a bit...

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    Outside profile looks good enough to leave alone!

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    Following the measurement used on the test sample, the panel is run through the bead roller's tipping wheel nice and slow to give us an initial mark for the bend, then repeated to tip the flange downward...

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    This looks about all we'll get without distorting and pulling, so then it's off to the custom anvil...

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    Then for some manual tipping...

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    ...and comparing to our profile sample......

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    Ready to cut off the old next time...

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  25. BarryA
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    Great work Robert!

    O/T, but I am busy with a batch of these for a new craft beer bar - this was the prototype, a little rough and still needs some detail added. Could apply some of the techniques to bomber type seats though...
     

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  26. MP&C
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    Looks good Barry. Did they chose that style to help hold the patrons upright? :D
     
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  27. BarryA
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    The place is on a local tourist orientated farm that is known for their collection of vintage tractors and implements - wanted to carry that theme through with slightly more modern take......though your idea may have more practical applications Robert;):D
     
  28. MP&C
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    They would make some awesome shop stools as well.. ;)
     
  29. bjinatj
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    Love the seats Barry..
     
  30. Irrational Metalworks
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    That's what tractor seats should look like Barry! Great job!
     

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