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Hemi heads for small block Chevy?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by lmurf, Jul 15, 2007.

  1. Deuces
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    Cool link!!... Thanks!
     
  2. hoop98
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  3. cabriolethiboy
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    A friend of mine has one of the Leo Lyons engines and is planning on producing some of the heads.
     
  4. mart3406
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    Do tell us more!!!!!

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  5. GregCon
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    "Most of the exotic SBC head development efforts went into overhead cam conversions. But the simple fact is that the SBC is a near perfect design, and hemi heads did not offer much improvement."

    That's really a hard one to swallow...hemi heads aside, the SBC is hardly a near perfect design. What it is is the engine which has had millions of hours of development put into it over 50+ years. There is no other engine that even comes close. The new LS series is proof of that - it shares very little in common with the SBC and outperforms it in every way.
     
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  8. Cool stuff but -

    here's how I see it ...

    If you really want a Hemi style combustion chamber, and you think it is the best chamber design, there's plenty of mopar hemis to chose from.

    Hemis aren't cheap compared to a SBC but a built hemi engine is going to be cheaper in both initial cost and long run than a built SBC with exotic conversion head and associated parts.
     
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  9. Truckedup
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    First generation small blocks fitted with the latest aftermarket heads and cams are quite formidable.Yes,not as formidable as an LS, but..... I would like to see on such an SBC and a similar cubic inch Mopar hemi built for street use compared on a dyno..
     
  10. GregCon
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    But that's the point - they aren't stock anymore. The aftermarket pieces show significant changes from stock, not just minor changes.

    I think it's been shown that neither the wedge shape of a Chevy nor the true Hemi is going to do best, but rather the pentroof shapes of the most modern engines (and lots of older motorcycles).
     
  11. dreracecar
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    The Chrys 426 HEMI was a Hemi head retrofit for the RB engine and not clean sheet of paper design, Pushrod angles are really messed up.
     
  12. mohr hp
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    Yeah they're so messed up, the alky boys can ONLY get 10,500 R.P.M. out of them.
     
  13. dreracecar
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    We are talking about Chry iron 426's and not Brad motors
     
  14. $um Fun
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    Don Ferguson makes a hemi head for the Chevy, cant remember if its a modified Ardun or the Lyons head. About 10 years ago the Lyons patterns were still around in SoCal and there were talks of them coming back.

    This is my M/T hemi head for the SBC, though its a DOHC.
     

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    Well, there's surely some monkey motion going on there, but it seems to have not held them back much. I like 'em.
     
  16. Mickey Thomson made hemi heads for about one of everything at one point, I don't doubt that he made some.
     
  17. Deuces
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    Got anymore pics of that one??????...????:D
     
  18. ckh
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    I was told that Don Ferguson purchased Leo Lyons patterns etc. from Walt Austin. Production to follow????? I am also friends with the person that cabriolethiboy mentioned. His detective work and persistence paid off and he obtained a very rare piece!
     
  19. $um Fun
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    Here you go. They were part of M/T's Indy program in the early 60's.
     

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  20. That is one goofy looking engine
     
  21. cabriolethiboy
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    I wish I could but I promised him I would not let out any of the details until he tells me it is OK. Sorry
     
  22. chase knight
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    Ron Still from Delaware ran a Top Fuel car in the late 60's with the Lyons hemi SBC heads. I believe that he has all the pieces today. Should be some pictures out there somewhere? Chase
     
  23. Weasel
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    Since this old thread has been revived....

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    More....

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  25. I am pretty into 302's I have a pretty wild one myself and also am fairly knowledgeable on their history, but NEVER have I seen the factory hemi heads....really cool stuff!
     
  26. Go visit the engine room at the Corvette museum in Bowling Green. They have some really cool "one-off" engines that you would kill for. I am not a chevy guy, but whoa....some of those engines are incredible. Hemi's, 3 valve, pent roofs, 4 valve etc. Wild stuff.
     
  27. EARLYHEMIBILL
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    Someone use to make phony hemi valve covers for the SBC. You might watch Ebay.
     
  28. wood337
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    I've seen the Chevy/hemi deal at Walt Austin's shop...story I got while there was that Walt worked fairly long and hard to get the pattern and tooling and that it was a recent procurement for them. As far as production, I don't recall if any comment was made.
     

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