#@%*August 2013 Banger Meet #$^&

Here is the banger link list .


For the HAMB banger newbies, here are some links to a lot of banger info:

Flat Ernie maintains the monthly link list. Every month is listed:

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=161498



Banger basics. another info link list:

http://www.fordgarage.com/

http://www.billsbangers.com

http://www.plucks329s.org/index.htm

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=251717

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=42480

Post #105 of link below shows flywheel lightening dimensions
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=470853&page=6

Model B rod bearing insert numbers
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6992484#post6992484


Engine tuning with a Vacuum gauge
http://www.centuryperformance.com/tuning-with-a-vacuum-gauge-spg-148.html

Adjusting dual Strombergs:
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6638461#post6638461

Helpful Model A tools and tips:

http://www.maurer-markus.ch/ford_a/tipps.index.en.html

Gary in MN's late model Malory distributor conversion for A/B engine:

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9147025&postcount=109

Elrod's stuck head tech:

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=218487

Model A generator to alternator conversion:

http://ejwhitneyco.com/automotive.html

Gear ratio / speed and RPM calculator:

http://www.accuautoparts.com/calculator.php


Model A master cylinder mounting bracket ideas:

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...73#post4953173

Go here to read the 1931 edition of Harry Ricardo's book "The High Speed Internal Combustion Engine"

http://www.scribd.com/full/40610101?access_key=key-w2bcjicdancrnxypd05


Chevy Banger Stuff

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=463465

http://www.scribd.com/doc/22469332/The-High-Speed-Internal-Combustion-Engine-Ricardo-1931

Post 198 starts a great discussion of the shape of a flat head combustion chamber

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=470853&page=10

Maybe these links should be posted early in each months meeting.

If anyone knows of more, please post them.

 

Here is a neat video about a Miller powered race boat from the 1920's - 1930's

http://www.autoweek.com/article/20130730/carnews01/130739997


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Checking in...

 

Thanks DaddyO...


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I think I can hang out here now......

 

I feel the mysterious powers of the banger calling my name again...

 

Soon we return to the USA

This weekend we'll see the 5-Main and HAL scans

Then waxes and off to casting

 

Im Bang'N Agian!!! After playing "Musical 4-Banger" with 3 motors got tiring, I jumped to the 28rpuV6 to start driving that, got it running but hit a roadblock with that, "Shit, I got to change the cam." Back to "Musical 4-Banger". I'm on Engine#3. Got it running Saturday after down for 4 weeks. I was riding my DYNO to work. After dicking with Enigine#1, putting it in & out cause it was more than just a Headgasket, I was so close to SBC'g the fucker. It's Running Now. . . So Far.

Now Im back on the 4 others cars in my backyard I got to get running. I think I'm driving this Model A a little too hard.

 

can we discuss heads? comp ratios, brands, alloy or Iron ?

 

Banger newb here...picked up a 31 coupe. Trying to get it running.

 

I'm with SJR....I need to know more than I do on Banger heads! Who's had what head, and what were the results and opinions?

 

The best heads got two cams in em!

 

been playing with a old head casting on the flowbench. much work to do as it really likes more than .600 lift on the goes-inta side (OHV)




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August already!!

 

Which side of the Mississippi ?

 

Has anyone tried these ebay radiators?

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2x1-tube...Accessories&hash=item41758d382e#ht_2065wt_968

Brendan

 

I am in looking forward to hearing more banger talk
Colin

 

Colin
Did I see your A at Bonniedoon pub a couple of months back?
I cant quite make it out from your avatar.
Post a pic of your car.
Brendan

 

Hi Brendan yes I was at the Bonnie Pub good club run we went on to the grass driving event
Good to see you hear
Colin

 

I have tried
Stock A head=smooth nothing special
Modified A head =as above
Stock B head smooth may 10% more power
Modified B head =as above maybe extra 2% power
Winfield Cast Iron Red Head = Great power smooth runs cool
Winfield Aluminium 8-1 Great power gasket need to be copper timing needs to be spot on runs hot
Winfield Aluminium 6-1= good power can run a little warm
Lion speed head mk 4= ok power runs cool
Thomas head =Good power need relief back of valve runs cool very smooth

 

Colin
Give us a run down on your engine and drive train, I seem to recall an aluminium flywheel housing?
Brendan

 

bluto, what are you up to ? are you going to be selling HAL heads ? keep me tuned in

 

We have no plans to make whole HAL conversions only the bare Model A HAL head castings and 5 main OHC blocks....... no sales planned sorry

Remember we are doing this to fix my wife's car It's not a business

 

Interesting! Didn't Ed Winfield say "Cast iron's for racin'; aluminum's for cookin'!"

 

Here are some pictures of the different combustion chambers:


Cyclone 8-1
V V V V V V V




Aluminum 7-1 Winfield
V V V V V V V V V V V V





Cast iron 7-1 Winfield
V V V V V V V V V V V V






Thomas 6-1 (aluminum)
VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV





7.5-1 Weiand (the one I run now)
VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV

 

Was the 7:1 Winfield flycut? I'm pretty sure they were originally flat over the pistons. That one looks identical to my 6:1 'Yellow Head'.

 

Not originaly. I cut it to fit on my 30 tudor.

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Brendan the set up you saw was my old faithfull A model engine Used it to try out different ideas it has count crank, insert bearings, pressure mains, 34 flywheel,l olds pistons cam by clive 350x270, Chevy 305 valves, Thomas head relived and decked 0.125? cast headers MSD dissy 2 inch exhaust, single or twin 97 Stromberg depends on distance and drive style
Drive train aluminium housing Mike Davidson adaptor 5 speed box open drive to 8 inch diff
how about yours last I heard you setting up twin SUs what size and which needles jets did you finish and which set up (head cam ect ) do they match
Colin

 

Hi Colin ,,,did you do your engine yourself ?,was it locally machined ? i am going to try and do an A engine for my sons 28 coupe ,,would like machining to be done by someone who maybe has done one before,,,i am in Geelong so not far from you ,,,,Rod,,

 

Thanks Dan plenty to think about there a good collection of examples. Heads are still being developed as we understand these motors better and apply modern tech to them .
One example I like the look of is Pat Garys BHT8BALL on here. He has combined a design with some of his other products to produce more swirl in the combustion camber its a good example of a modern head moving these motors into the present day.