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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by lincolnlog, Jul 20, 2013.

  1. lincolnlog
    Joined: Feb 25, 2007
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    lincolnlog
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    from Arizona

    So I took the radiator for my 60 continental to be tanked/re-cored and the shop I took it to advised that i just go with a new Aluminum radiator.

    I left the original with them, agreed to go with a cross flow, and was told i'd get one that will bolt in place.

    The radiator that they gave has some problems:

    - The cooling area is a lot smaller (5 3/4" narrower) ~ 13% smaller
    - The overall width is too small to bolt up in place of the original, even with the angle they welded on.
    - The top inlet is much smaller than the original by 1/3 to 1/2" diameter

    Had I not payed extra for this professional shop to do this, I could work around these issues.

    I explained that his is going on a 430 with A/C... I'm afraid this much smaller radiator won't cool the car...

    I'm leaning toward returning this. Am I wrong for thinking that this is not right?


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  2. Rusty O'Toole
    Joined: Sep 17, 2006
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    It doesn't fit. Take it back and get one that fits, or get your old rad recored.
     
  3. 48ford
    Joined: Dec 15, 2001
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    Take it back ,It's not even close.
     
  4. 48FordFanatic
    Joined: Feb 26, 2011
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    48FordFanatic
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    from Maine

    I'd take it back. If you try it and it doesn't cool properly you could be stuck with it.
     
    Last edited: Jul 20, 2013

  5. ^^x2
     
  6. 21stud
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    from California

    Take it back
     
  7. Fenders
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    Fenders
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    WTF kind of radiator shop is that?
     
  8. MP&C
    Joined: Jan 11, 2008
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    MP&C
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    Take it back. Call Walker.
     
  9. I would take it back.
     
  10. mailerguy1
    Joined: Jul 26, 2011
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    The shop said you " Would get one that would bolt in". You did'nt. It is their's to remedy in my book.
     
  11. Moon Rocket
    Joined: Dec 26, 2012
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    The only reason it appears to have less cooling area is that the original is a vertical flow and the new one is a horizontal flow. They have to have some area to put the tanks. You make the difference up by the new cooling area being taller.

    How much real difference is there between the overall side to side dim., judging from the pix it can’t be much?

    Looks like the inlet is as large as the tank will allow?

    I think I would install it and move on to my next project. I’m sure the cooling capability of the new one surpasses the original.
    Buy the way; what did you have to pay for the new one?
     
  12. lincolnlog
    Joined: Feb 25, 2007
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    from Arizona

    side to side is 5 & 3/4" difference in width.... They welded a 2" outlet on the other tank, seems to reason they could have gone bigger on the inlet..

    I think I'll be taking this back on Monday. Thanks!
     
  13. BigAl1961
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    It just isn't right. Return it.
     
  14. cmyhtrod
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    from ct

    I don't see any provisions for your trans cooler on the aluminum one. We're you planning on running a remote cooler?
     
  15. mustang6147
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    from Kent, Ohio

    You've been had.... Get rid of the aluminum and go brass.... That's the wrong radiator.... I would go and have your re-cored, adding cores if you need, but would not use that or other aluminum.....
     
  16. Moon Rocket
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    "side to side is 5 & 3/4" difference in width...."


    You are comparing cooling tubes, how much difference outside of angle to outside of angle?


    You do realize you will never get a cross flow with tubes as wide as a top/bottom tank don't you?


    How much taller are the new tubes than the old ones? :rolleyes:


    You will never be happy with it so best you do return it. You know, I bet you can get a new one made exactly like your original,....for about $1,200.00!
     
  17. Are we getting the whole story? This guy couldn't possibly stay in business if he made it a habit of NOT providing the products that were agreed upon.

    ... as far as the aluminum one goes, being cross-flow it is going to much more efficient than your old one but you still gotta deal with the trans cooler
     
  18. cruzingratiot
    Joined: Oct 2, 2008
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    I would find another rad shop
    and have it recored
    they probally recommended the alloy one
    because copper/ brass rads aren't cheep to recore
     
  19. manyolcars
    Joined: Mar 30, 2001
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    manyolcars

    The shops here REFUSE to repair or recore. They will ONLY sell a new one
     
  20. lincolnlog
    Joined: Feb 25, 2007
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    from Arizona

    Yes, that's comparing cooling area... The new one has a narrower cooling area, and is the same height as the original.

    outside angle to outside angle is 1" difference... since the old radiator mounting bolts are 1/2" inboard on each side, that means that the edge of the angle is right where the bolt centers are on the core support.
     
  21. Dane
    Joined: May 6, 2010
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    from Soquel, CA

    You got ripped. Take it back and demand a refund on the grounds it's too small. Cross flow or not it's way to small for a 430. If aluminum is OK with you get a "800 HP" 5 core Champion on eGag for cheap including shipping. The Champions look like the were built by gorillas who were learning how to tig weld, but they are tuff and HUGE.
     
  22. M224SPEED
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    from Missouri

    Get the right one,there are too many places that would love to have your business,and treat you right !!
     
  23. kscarguy
    Joined: Aug 22, 2007
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    x22 get the original back and have it tanked and rebuilt. I hope they still have it and don't give you a hard time with returning the new one.
     
  24. I believe we have enough for a quorum,,so the votes are in,,take it back. HRP
     
  25. Moon Rocket
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    And please let us know the difference in price between having yours remanufactured and the new aluminum one.

    I believe it's going to prove to be a case of you get what you pay for. I'm betting your going to find that remanufacturing your old one is going to be some what more expensive than the new aluminum one..
     
  26. mustang6147
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    Union meeting....LoL
     

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