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Technical 283/286 Sporting TWIN TURBOS very rare engine!!!!!

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by STARLITE KUSTOM, Jul 9, 2013.

  1. STARLITE KUSTOM
    Joined: Mar 29, 2013
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    STARLITE KUSTOM
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    I have this rare 283 Engine sporting twin turbos, I was told that it could be a GM experimental Engine and possible one of the engines that were build for the CERV-1,,,,,,,,,, can some one hel me identify this Engine please???????? If you have any info or photos of the CERV-1 twin turbo engine I would really appriciate it...

    my email is [email protected]
    or could call or text me at 310-848-7029
    THANKS!!!!!!!!

    The info I got so far about the engine

    O-172978
    Casting# 8772895
    The following numbers were also found
    #18283-1-E
    #17495-12-A
    Dates: 5-4-59 & 6-24-58

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  2. tfeverfred
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    Very interesting.
     
  3. triumph 1
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    Very cool piece of history there! I Hope you find more info regarding it's origin.
     
  4. F&J
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    Would GM R&D build a very crude intake like that?
     

  5. tfeverfred
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    A Google search yielded these.
     

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  6. tfeverfred
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    Found this here: http://history.gmheritagecenter.com/wiki/index.php/CERV_I,_II,_III,_and_IV

    Note the weight of this engine!:eek:

    CERV I
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    CERV I



    The CERV I was developed between 1959 and 1960 by Zora Arkus Duntov as a functional mid-engine, open wheel, single-seat prototype racing car, with Larry Shinoda and Tony Lapine doing the design work. Duntov developed CERV I as a platform for engineers to develop and refine Chevrolet body, chassis and suspension systems. Its impressive performance on the test track drove him to have higher aspirations, the checkered flag at Indy. Due to the AMA (Automobile Manufacturer’s Association) ban on manufacturer-sponsored racing at the time, Duntov drove the CERV I’s demo laps at the U.S. Grand Prix in 1960.
    The CERV I was originally equipped with a 283 cid / 350 hp, small block V8 engine, weighing only 350 lbs. Intensive use of aluminum and magnesium engine components saved over 175 lbs. Complementing its lightweight power plant, designer, Larry Shinoda constructed the body structure out of fiberglass, which weighed in at only 80 lbs. The body structure was attached to a rigid 125 lb. Chrome-molybdenum tube constructed frame, welded in a truss-like configuration. Combining these lightweight components helped the CERV I’s 96-inch wheelbase weigh in at 1,600 lbs. The chassis features a four-wheel independent suspension. The front suspension uses independent, variable rate springs with shock absorbers and stabilizer bar. The rear suspension uses independent multilink, variable rate springs, with double acting shock absorbers and the wheels are cast magnesium alloy. Steering is recirculating ball type with 12:1 ratio.
    The brake system uses front disc/rear drum, with a two piston master cylinder to eliminate the chance of complete brake failure. Fuel is delivered via two rubber bladder fuel cells (20 gal. total capacity).
    Fuel injected small block technology was developed using the CERV I. For even greater performance, Duntov refitted the CERV I with a 377 cu. in. aluminum small block, an advanced Rochester fuel injection system and Indy-style tires and wheels. To match this mechanical updating, Shinoda redesigned its streamlined body structure for greater aerodynamics. Top speed was 206 mph.
     
  7. Ognib
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  8. davidbistolas
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    That's the only small block I've ever seen that wasn't out of a corvette...
     
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  9. tfeverfred
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    lmfao
     
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  10. Speedwrench
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    An old Smokey Yunick indy car engine ??????
     
  11. F-6Garagerat
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    Sure looks like the same engine to me. How friggin cool. If the Cerv-1 engine had all those aluminum/magnesium parts start checking pieces with a magnet.

    How about the story of how you came across it?
     
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  12. Phucker
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    The second engine pic in tfeverfred's post appears to the the one in question. Maybe a previous seller pic. Looks like the logs are bolted to the intake? I would be curious to what the intake looks like. Does it carry any GM part numbers, or look to be modified where the logs bolt on?
     
  13. mart3406
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    Wow! It certainly looks like the real
    deal to me. It may be a cast iron
    'test mule' used to work the bugs out,
    before the turbo and injection
    technology was transferred to an
    'aluminum block and head' engine
    for actual placement in the CERV.
    Check the intake manifold base. Are
    there any casting numbers or date
    codes visible on it? It looks a lot like
    an early Rochester fuel injection base,
    but with special, fabricated plenums
    bolted to it. What make are the turbos?
    I'm guessing...TRW or Air Research???
    What about part or casting or date-code
    numbers on the turbos? Going by the
    size of them, they may be the actual
    prototypes of either the TRW turbos,
    later used on the Corvair Spyder - or
    of the Air Research turbos, later used
    on the 215 -inch Olds Jetaway. Both
    those engines, along with their
    turbocharger set-up would have
    been in the development stages at
    about the same time as this engine
    was built and the turbos for them
    would have likely been kicking
    around the engineering department
    and available for a semi-skunk-works
    "racing" project like this without
    attracting the undue attention of
    the bean-counters.
     
  14. mart3406
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    ---------
    Ditto on that! Enquiring HAMB
    minds *NEED* to know!

    Mart3406
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  15. Deuces
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    Deuces

    Yep!... Gotta spill the beans!!!...
     
  16. Deuces
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    Deuces

    I'd start disassembling everything to check out what's inside..... And "PLEASE" post allot of thumbnail pics!!!!!... Thanks!!!...:)
     
  17. 30FordNerd
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    A very interesting engine, what are you going to do with it?
     
  18. Morgan91
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    You've got my attention. Injected or blow through carbs? Pictures came up blurry on my phone


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  19. no.scar.no.story
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    So... ? What's the scoop?
     
  20. Leviman
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    Wow! The block sure looks like aluminum or magnesium, doesn't look like it has rust.
     
  21. pwschuh
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    I'm in for more pictures and the full story.
     
  22. 57JoeFoMoPar
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    I'm interested to say the least.
     
  23. what ever happened to CERV 1? i believe i sat in it once 20+ years ago
     
  24. ryno
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    i think i be calling speedy bill at speedway to put it in the show room
     
  25. 63comet
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    Does this post belong here? Turbos aren't traditional! ;)


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  26. Rusty O'Toole
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    Looks like draw through carbs. There are 2, Y shaped intake manifolds for side draft carburetors either Weber 2 barrel or dual single carbs. One on each turbo, one pointing forward one pointing backward. The one pointing toward the camera has a block off plate on one leg of the Y indicating it was run on a single side draft carb at some time.
     
  27. PackardV8
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    The turbos are very similar to those used on the early '60s Olds Turbofire 215" V8 and Corvair Spyder. They used a 1-bbl sidedraft Carter YH. The Olds also had water/alcohol injection.

    jack vines
     
  28. 3window31
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    It looks like a prototype engine to me. The heads are stamped RH and LH. The number has 283 in it. The 1 E might mean experimental. The block was made in March of 1959.
     
  29. fastrnu
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    Great now my mnd is hyperfocusing a twin turbo sbc useing a crossram and block hugger headers.
    i will be following this
     
  30. dlshady
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    Awwww heck, it's probably worthless. You should really just send it to me and I'll take real good care of it! :D


    Man, that's a cool piece!
     

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