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How far can one bore a 305 chevy.

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by chevyman1963, Apr 16, 2013.

  1. chevyman1963
    Joined: Jan 19, 2011
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    from tulsa, ok

    I have a 305 and an old 283 sittin out in the garage. The 283 has some pretty tall pistons. My question is will a 305 accommodate a bore of 3.857 without runnin your cylinder walls too thin? Iv done the math. The displacement would come out to 328ci. Basically a stroked 283..
     
  2. you would have to bore it a bit over 1/8".....forget it and build the 283

    i assume you mean 3.875 and not 3.857
     
  3. spiderdeville
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    can't take it ..which is why 305s are throwaway
     
  4. 305 is a POS engine 283 327 350 will do you well
     

  5. Barnmiester
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    283 is the way to go!
     
  6. Shaggy
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    I'm with the other guys saying not worth the rebuild when a 283/327 core is still $200
     
  7. Kerrynzl
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    305's have 3.48 stroke and 283's have a 3.00 stroke so the pistons of a 283 will be 0.240 too tall.

    If you could bore it ?? a 307 piston would be closer because of the 3.25 stroke but you would still need to lose 0.120 in compression height.

    You could fly-cut the heads but this would cost more than a 350 block which would take the 305 crank / rods with 350 pistons

    Re-block it
     
  8. Drive Em
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    We run 305 Chevy powered sprint cars around this area with stock blocks and they can be bored .060" over, and turn 8300 RPM's. Hardly a POS engine.
     
  9. k9racer
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    I saw one a while back,, 3 3/4 stroke on a 305 around 335 CID. A local machine shop/Race shop built the unit for a circle track engine. It runs strong.
     
  10. Cowtown Speed Shop
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    If I had my choice I would build the 283. Good motors and they make my fav SBC which is a 301 (60's race engine) what do you mean by the 283 has tall pistons? Are they aftermarket? the 305's got a bad rap because they were underpowered and bad about the cams going flat all the time in mid 80's cars. This however is easily fixed when building a new motor. but We ran alot of them in simple streetrod builds all through the late 80's and 90's (mostly because they were cheap and relieable)
     
  11. Speed Gems
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    A 305 Chevy has a stock bore of 3.736 so even at .060 over your only at 3.796 so NO.
     
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  12. I beleive he was referring to pin placement effctively placing piston higher if put on a 305 rod/crank combination.....
    A 305 is a good long lasting little motor actually and due to a small bore ,should end up a [thicker sleeve]- for better cooling and stability.....
    the #450 cast 305 4bbl heads are a great add on for 350's for more compression....

    A friend who was a machinist used to do 305 engines, bored to use 350 pistons and they were then throwaways if a rebuild was necessary after that......
    I was under the impression the sleeves were both the same =outer dimension= on a 350 and 305???




     
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  13. skidro69
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    Hey Chevyman, I dream the same stuff! But, if they don't make a piston, that will work with your dream, regaurding pin height, then you can't do it.
    My latest is a 305 block with a 3.25 stroke = 289ci chevy. (334ci 5.7 rod pistons will work with 6.0in rods and machine .020 off of the piston top.
     
  14. Speed Gems
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    JE Pistons can custom make anything you want if you're willing to add the extra expence.:D
     
  15. brandon
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    Thats so true...ditch em both and build a basic 355.....parts are cheaper
     
  16. 40Standard
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  17. 1gearhead
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    If you bore it 0.75" oversize you won't have to worry about it.
     
  18. B.A.KING
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    what cha gonna put the motor in? you can pretty much come up with any combo you want if you have enough $$$$$ and a smart enough machenist. and don't let any body tell ya 305s are a pos. got one in my 59 elky,i drive it hard ,and it has a W H O L E LOT of miles on it. but the 305/350/327/283 thing has been beat to death on here before. you choise, grasshopper.
     
  19. Drive Em
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    So no what? I was merely pointing out that 305's are used in high performance applications and that they are not a POS engine. As far as how much they can be bored, I do not know.
     
  20. pdq67
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    Fwiw, imho, the old "trip over it for free", 307 engine is way better than the 305...

    It has a 3.875" bore and a 3.25" stroke so is the best of the 283 and 327 ...

    As for me, I'd take a round-bottomed 283, (or a good 307), and bore it .125" and make a 301, then you got something that can be hopped enough to go big engine hunting..

    Somewhere there is a thread with a vid. in it that has an old style hopped up Z-28 type engine on a dyno that was producing something like 470 hp up top with only an old style solid lifter flat tappet cam..

    I have everything but a set of cheap pistons to make another junk301 that this time will be shifted above 8,000 rpm to the tune of at least 400 hp.

    I want the "ricers" to know what SBC high rpm power is all about is all.

    pdq67
     
  21. Speed Gems
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    I was merely answering the original poster question in saying that the 305 has a stock bore of 3.736 so "NO" at .060 over (even .070 over) it cannot be bored out to 3.875.
     
  22. skidro69
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    Yea, and i was bringing up the point of.......you can dream up SBC strokes and bores, but if pistons aren't readilly available, then it's not feasable. I haven't ever had special pistons made, but I have been told, by A manufacture, that they will not build unless buy 500 pieces. Either way that is called feasability!
    I'd like to have a dollar for every 305 thats been thrown away by closed minded, what somebody will think, what my brother in law says, had a bad one, read something bad about them, bla bla people.
     
  23. Rocket man 88
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    I am running a 305 in my '28' and love the little motor...I bought it at swap for $50 and it came with an edel intake and carb....I bought a rebuild kit..gaskets and bearing ect ect...and found a set of stock diameter flat top pistons on ebay for $85 with rings...I drive the car on the street around people and there children...no need for 1100 HP, but the 290HP/310FT TQ it puts out is just fine with the 4 speed it has and it runs out real nice on the highway...and ya its reliable as hell.
     
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  24. skidro69
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    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^amen
     
  25. John Lafayette
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    I freshened up a 305 (freebe low mile) with flat tops and 350 cam for my '29 coupe 23 years ago. It ran great and I loved it.
     
  26. PackardV8
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    If one is shadetreeing it, if one got it free, then build anything one wants. Having BTDT for many years, no way a 283"/301"/305"/307" holds its own out on the street. Inches are basically free horsepower and torque rules.

    Engine shops hate to see the small-small blocks and unrealistic expectations coming. All the labor costs are going to be the same as to build a 350"/383"/400", smaller-bore pistons actually cost more than for a 350" and they're always going to be down 50-100 horsepower.

    jack vines
     
  27. Speed Gems
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    And since all SBC's all look the same (except the for 400 :rolleyes:) people won't know it's not a 350. :D
     
  28. Pat Leyland
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    Ross will make any pistons you want from forged blanks i have them in my 307 with a 400 crank,so dream up anything you want :) just don't mess up the pin height cause they are sorta pricey, having a motor you did yourself and no one else has is worth more than gold to me!
     
  29. Pat Leyland
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    thx skidro69 i have a 305 and that 289 sounds interesting going to build it this winter and been wondering about builds trying to think of something differant :)
     
  30. doyoulikesleds
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    doyoulikesleds

    confuse everyone run a 383 crank 400 rods and stock 5.0 vortec pistons
     

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