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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by younggun13, Apr 9, 2013.

  1. younggun13
    Joined: Mar 6, 2009
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    Hey guys I have a 51 ford shoebox I'm building that i'm trying to get on the road in a month or two. My question is my steering shaft is a 46 1/4"(stock) and i need to find a way to make it 7" shorter to accommodate the steering wheel I have. Would cutting and welding the shaft be a very bad idea? Do they sell shafts like this i could simply buy and replace? also I think I need an adapter because the whole steering system is stock but i need to adapt the gm steering wheel to my ford shaft, any pointers on this as well? The picture is the project a few weeks back.
     

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  2. no , shortening the column is not a problem if done properly. for the gm wheel splice a upper part of a gm shaft to the lower ford shaft

    there should be a few threads on here about shortening the shaft , i know i have done a couple
     
  3. Mike51Merc
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    Don't weld the shaft. You can cut the shaft and install a universal joint.

    Your Ford has the "spear of death" steering column, meaning that it is a solid shaft with a solid connection to the steering box. This is your opportunity to change to something a little safer.
     
  4. Suggestions?
     

  5. younggun13
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    like Big A added what are some suggestions?
     
  6. Mike51Merc
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    I'm no expert and typically I'm a traditionalist, but if you're gonna change the column, you might look into a more modern collapsible unit. Since you want to mount a GM steering wheel, I guess GM is the place to look.
     
  7. are you using the original steering box?
     
  8. younggun13
    Joined: Mar 6, 2009
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    I was planning on just adapting the shaft to accommodate the steering wheel and I was going to run it. As of right now it is the stock steering setup. I would like to keep the car very traditional as well im not a fan of tile wheels etc..
     
  9. i will say it again , if done properly shortening the shaft and adapting a different piece of shaft to allow for different wheel is ok. i repeat.....if done properly

    or i don't know what i'm talking about and ignore what i have said

    that's all i have to say
     
  10. the-rodster
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    It sound like you are using more than a GM steering wheel, more like a GM steering wheel and column.

    I'm running a stock wheel, stock upper column, shortened at the bottom, double D shaft with couplers to a GM box.

    Rich
     
  11. tommy
    Joined: Mar 3, 2001
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    I'm bettin' he's adding a 59 Olds wheel to the existing shaft. My buddy did it to a 49 or 50 Chevy.

    [​IMG]

    I had to add a 39 upper shaft to my F100 bx to run a banjo wheel. Not a job for a guy learning to weld but remember the pipes in a nuclear power plant are welded together. You can see the weld about 6" below the steering lock collar. If you are scared of welding have a professional welder do it.

    If you had ever seen what they do to certify a welder you'd be a lot less scared. a properly done weld is just as strong as the original parent metal. It' just the harry homeowners with their bubble gum welds that scare everybody.

    [​IMG]

    You ain't putting a U joint in this column!!!!
     
  12. Yep, no room for a coupler in a shoebox column. Jegs sells splined shafts in different lengths, is this as simple(?) as determining the spline count and length and ordering one?
     
  13. younggun13
    Joined: Mar 6, 2009
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    thanks for the info guys and no not a 59 olds its a 60 Pontiac wheel wheel I'm trying to adapt when accomplished ill post pictures!
     
  14. msalamanca
    Joined: May 25, 2011
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    What about using a monte carlo shaft?
     

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