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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Dagochopper, Mar 5, 2013.

  1. Dagochopper
    Joined: Apr 11, 2012
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    I have a Miller 140 autoset. I plan on putting in a Gambino lowering kit on my 53 chevy. Will I get the penetration I need for the work with my welder?
     
  2. DamnYankeesKustoms
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    I'm assuming it's a 110v machine... I know the frame rails are pretty thin on that car but I don't know what the kit uses for thickness...however... if you have to ask..chances are you should not attempt it... you really need a 220v, min 180 amp machine... (at least for MIG anyway)...
     
  3. Dagochopper
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    Kit uses 3/16 which is the max for the welder. I was just wondering if anyone ever done it before.
     
  4. AkBillyBow
    Joined: Feb 11, 2012
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    from Alaska

    I am in the same boat that you are. I decided to upgrade to a 220 volt machine, just to be safe. I spoke to a couple of welders where I work (professional welders) and they told me you can get good penetration on the 3/16" material with the 120 volt welders, if you are good and know what you are doing.

    Since I am a hobbyist welder, I decided my skill are questionable with the 120 volt machine. That is why I decided a 220 would be better for me. I am confident that I will not have any issues with the 220 machine.

    So, I think if you are skilled enough, you will have no problem. Since you are asking the question (which I did also), I would suggest that you would be better suited with a 220 volt welder, or hiring someone more skilled to weld it.

    AkBillyBow
     

  5. Dagochopper
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    thanks for the info!
     
  6. Don's Hot Rods
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    from florida

    This comes up occasionally and some people swear they can get good penetration with a 110 machine on thicker steel, but it would scare me. A 220 volter just has so much more amperage to really do the job.

    With either machine please make sure the two pieces are ground absolutely clean and shiiny. I am always amazed when I see some pictures someone posts of welding they have done and you can see they did it right over rust, or if they did clean it they did a quick job. Good welds require spotless substrates to really get good penetration with no contamination, so please spend some extra time with a grinder to get down to clean metal.

    That is my soapbox for the day. :D

    Don
     
  7. big vic
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    I built several drag cars and I agree with don
     
  8. OLDSMAN
    Joined: Jul 20, 2006
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    Although I am a very accoumplished welder, I used a Millermatic 120 for all of my work, I used it for my frame work, I installed a sub frame on my convertible, and got plenty of penetration with the 120. I would say you could also do the job with yours without updating to a 220 volt unit
     
  9. scottybaccus
    Joined: Mar 13, 2006
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    I've done a lot of chassis work with a Miller 135, 110v machine. Practice, prep and make sure you grind a bevel on joints to make the most of the welder...

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